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  1. #431
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Y'all wanted lottery, you got it
    The lottery is still infinitely better than placard camping.

    The real issue is, and always has been, the overly limited and artificial scarcity of housing caused by the ward system. They really need to fix the issue properly and just add instanced personal housing into the game.
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    Sorry I never ask for the lottery system but did ask for instant housing that never happened. I liked how it was before first come first grabs.
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    Rules say 1 house and 1 FC house per account. Unless you have 3 accounts, you're breaking the rules.
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  4. #434
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    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Sorry I never ask for the lottery system but did ask for instant housing that never happened. I liked how it was before first come first grabs.
    First come first serve was as fair as it got tbh, but then you have people complaining "what about people with bad pcs !!!!! what about if i'm at work !!!!"

    it's an endless flow of complaint and always finding an issue with every system

    And to the breaking the rule comment, it's not agaisnt TOS to multiown, you people need to stop with the false information, there is NOWHERE in the TOS where it says that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    First come first serve was as fair as it got tbh, but then you have people complaining "what about people with bad pcs !!!!! what about if i'm at work !!!!"
    Except people who broke the ToS by botting to placard camp had a clear advantage in the old system. Because yes, many people have real life obligations and can't spend countless hours staring at an empty plot constantly checking the placard too see if the timer is up yet so they can try to purchase it. Which in my opinion, was even worse losing on buying a plot because you could easily waste hours for nothing, which I unfortunately have with that system.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    it's an endless flow of complaint and always finding an issue with every system
    Because the real issue isn't so much how you acquire a plot, it's the ridiculous artificial scarcity of the current housing system that's causing all of the problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    And to the breaking the rule comment, it's not agaisnt TOS to multiown, you people need to stop with the false information, there is NOWHERE in the TOS where it says that.
    Yeah, not against the ToS, but you're still selfish and greedy.
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  6. #436
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xylira View Post
    Except people who broke the ToS by botting to placard camp had a clear advantage in the old system. Because yes, many people have real life obligations and can't spend countless hours staring at an empty plot constantly checking the placard too see if the timer is up yet so they can try to purchase it. Which in my opinion, was even worse losing on buying a plot because you could easily waste hours for nothing, which I unfortunately have with that system.



    Because the real issue isn't so much how you acquire a plot, it's the ridiculous artificial scarcity of the current housing system that's causing all of the problems.



    Yeah, not against the ToS, but you're still selfish and greedy.
    That's not first come first serve though, FCFS is getting a house immediately which is the old system that it worked under.

    Housing is scarce yes, absolutely true, and that's why the option to move to a less crowded server or datacenter exists if you REALLY want a house.

    As for the last comment, I didnt say I was doing it, the person in the previous page mentioned having multiple, not me
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    No...this new system, while it has its faults, is ENDLESSLY better than the old system. Anyone who says otherwise never had a house in the old system, I'm convinced.

    Clicking on a sign for hours only to lose to someone who came right up and bought it because they relocated and thus overwrote the timer.

    Or losing it to someone who came up at just the right second.

    Or how about logging on at 5AM on a patch day to try and RUN to your desired plot before anyone else got there.

    The fact is, without instanced housing the lottery system is absolutely the fairest method and the only thing that would make it fairer would be something dumb like "one house per account per server".

    This thread reeks of "I lost the lottery today!"
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  8. #438
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    No...this new system, while it has its faults, is ENDLESSLY better than the old system. Anyone who says otherwise never had a house in the old system, I'm convinced.

    Clicking on a sign for hours only to lose to someone who came right up and bought it because they relocated and thus overwrote the timer.

    Or losing it to someone who came up at just the right second.

    Or how about logging on at 5AM on a patch day to try and RUN to your desired plot before anyone else got there.

    The fact is, without instanced housing the lottery system is absolutely the fairest method and the only thing that would make it fairer would be something dumb like "one house per account per server".

    This thread reeks of "I lost the lottery today!"
    FCFS is the most fair system actually.

    Walk up to plot, purchase and claim, end of story.

    Oh and I did have a house under the old system, had to get one multiple times due to server transfering, and I never had issues, always went for small goblet, extremely few people, and then upgraded with instant relo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    FCFS is the most fair system actually.

    Walk up to plot, purchase and claim, end of story.
    And what about people who have lives that make them incapable of waking up at 5AM on patch day when new plots are added? They just don't get a chance at having a house?

    Contrary to your own experience, some people do have IRL lives and obligations that may prohibit them from being able to dedicate all of their time to FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post
    And what about people who have lives that make them incapable of waking up at 5AM on patch day when new plots are added? They just don't get a chance at having a house?

    Contrary to your own experience, some people do have IRL lives and obligations that may prohibit them from being able to dedicate all of their time to FFXIV.
    Exactly the problem, its never good enough for people, there's always someone that it might not work for, maybe I'll go to the bathroom when the house comes up for sale ? Oh no, anyways ! Maybe I'll be with my mom when the house comes up, or maybe at work, or maybe just out grocery shopping, does the world need to stop spinning because I'm doing something else with my life ? Does a virtual game need to be impacted by what I decide to do with my life ?
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