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  1. #11
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    ICountFrom0's Avatar
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    Zedlizvez Mikasch
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    You could go as far as Crated gear, pentamelded for every class on a character.
    Now you can't perfectly pentameld for every class, Paladin wants something slightly different than a warrior. Even DRG and Reaper want something slightly different in skill speed.

    So you can have, as a starting point, "perfect" gear, one set for each set of equipment. Scouting, Fending, ect. That's 620.

    Not good enough?

    Fine, wear that, do the current EX, get a lot of tokens and chests, and you can get 625 weapons on every class. Might not be better then perfectly pentamelded, but might be better then the wrong meldings on your off characters, this brings everybody back up to power level, assuming perfect play.

    Next step? Well, the weekly limited tomestone gets you 620 gear, and then you could ride along with hunt trains to get the nuts to upgrade it to 630 gear. So the limitation here is 450 tomestones per week. This won't get you a full set. So lets assume you've got friends at the same unlimited power potential. So you run savage, and they give you the coffer from all four, that's four more pieces of 630. Call it two weeks to get one nearly perfect set. Again, you can't QUITE perfect a set for more then one class per type, so you'd have either a perfect paladin or a perfect warrior. So, to get all 7 to the top, we're talking the entire length expected between patches, about 4 months.

    Next step? It's ultimate season. TOP performance jokes aside, in theory if you play perfectly, you could be on an ultimate team with that level of gear, and farm ultimate weapons for every job as well. Wont' be noticeably better then the weapon from the savage circle, but it'll be shiny, and typically while not enough better to be worth it, come on... eveybody wants it.
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  2. #12
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    Coatl Days
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    Leviathan
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Just one. End thread. You would have to spend a month or two acquiring weekly gear for other classes. You can only ideally gear up one class at any given time unless a class uses the same stats and can be shared between classes.
    This is the right answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    Not true, “decent” does not mean BiS and you can get decent crafted gear for pretty much every job. That gear can also be augmented to 620 (not needed for “ decent”) for those who wish to and/or have enough coins.
    Until people start requiring Ilevel that exceeds crafted gear in their PF requirements.

    You can buy crafted and play on as many classes as you want for savage in the beginning, but eventually you will have to choose whom to give your drops to. Eventually, you can trickle down your gear to one other class. But it's not a quick process.
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  3. #13
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    This is the right answer.



    Until people start requiring Ilevel that exceeds crafted gear in their PF requirements.

    You can buy crafted and play on as many classes as you want for savage in the beginning, but eventually you will have to choose whom to give your drops to. Eventually, you can trickle down your gear to one other class. But it's not a quick process.
    Savage doesn't require BiS, given that you acquire most of your BiS gear through Savage.
    Therefore 'able to play Savage' qualifies as 'decently' geared.
    If you can manage Savage purely through crafted gearn then that counts.

    If people start requiring higher ilvl in tgeir PFs, start your own. People play this game at different paces, there will always be someone who's finished progging but isn't BiS yet.
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  4. #14
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post

    Until people start requiring Ilevel that exceeds crafted gear in their PF requirements.

    You can buy crafted and play on as many classes as you want for savage in the beginning, but eventually you will have to choose whom to give your drops to. Eventually, you can trickle down your gear to one other class. But it's not a quick process.
    This doesn't mean you cannot DO the content though. If the ask is "can I have viable gear for all my classes to do endgame content" the answer is YES.

    Just because people will poopoo your Iscore doesn't mean you cannot do the content.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Excalibur
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    This doesn't mean you cannot DO the content though. If the ask is "can I have viable gear for all my classes to do endgame content" the answer is YES.
    Actually untrue. My BLU is ilvl 400 and I currently cannot do endgame content. :P

    So your statement that all classes can do endgame content is incorrect.

    OP asked if he could decently gear up multiple classes at the same time for Savage and the answer is primarily no. You can only gear up one.

    Now. If you have infinite time and infinite gil then yes you can gear up every job no problem until you hit the weekly gated loot tables at which point you can only feasibly gear up one job at any given time.

    Thus exposing the you can play any job but can only gear up one for what it truly is.

    Now what you could do is just skip 6.0 content until 7.0 and then you can feasibly gear up all classes in a few hours with just Poetics. It's an option but a long ways off.
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  6. #16
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    Jain Farstrider
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 100
    If you want to do the "best DPS" and be the "best player you can be" (DPS-wise), then it is a combination of BiS gear and executing your rotation at the highest level. The latter you can work on with any iLvl gear. The former required raiding (initially) or now the 24-man weekly token and/or hunt marks (minus the weapon). There is a marked difference between a BiS player performing at the highest level and someone with i620 gear. However, the necessity for BiS gear is fairly limited.
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  7. #17
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    There is a marked difference between a BiS player performing at the highest level and someone with i620 gear. However, the necessity for BiS gear is fairly limited.
    Well, of course there is. That goes without saying. A better correlation would be a player in i620 gear performing optimally vs a player on the same job in BiS performing suboptimal. ilv requirements to enter a duty are typically much less than the requirement set by the players themselves. They can do this in hopes to reduce the pool of incompetent players, but they will also cut out a portion of players who are perfectly capable of holding their own weight as well. The necessity of BiS is determined by the party leader, not the game.
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  8. #18
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Actually untrue. My BLU is ilvl 400 and I currently cannot do endgame content. :P

    So your statement that all classes can do endgame content is incorrect.

    OP asked if he could decently gear up multiple classes at the same time for Savage and the answer is primarily no. You can only gear up one.

    Now. If you have infinite time and infinite gil then yes you can gear up every job no problem until you hit the weekly gated loot tables at which point you can only feasibly gear up one job at any given time.

    Thus exposing the you can play any job but can only gear up one for what it truly is.

    Now what you could do is just skip 6.0 content until 7.0 and then you can feasibly gear up all classes in a few hours with just Poetics. It's an option but a long ways off.

    What kind of pedantic nonsense is that? "blurf blurf BUT BLUEMAGE."

    OK.. sure.. bluemage cannot.

    And no you don't need infinite time and Gil, just run the raid, do the tomestone grinds and don't depend on gear to shore up your mistakes.

    There is a point where if you want every single job to be geared for current endgame you're going to hit time constraints, but it's not about picking ONE and only one job.
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  9. #19
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    Mr_Gyactus's Avatar
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    Rugiada Brightdawn
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by True-to-Caesar View Post
    So basically I mainly play tank, and I have been playing Samurai only as DPS.

    Been starting to enjoy MCH long before 6.3 and I was wondering if I could keep both DPS with decent gear since I want to keep playing them as DPS.

    I read that you can only have one job with the best gear and the rest will have to wait a long time to get to that level. So I was wondering if there was something I did wrong because outside of the latest tomestones and raids, I don’t see what are my other options.
    everyone can have crafted HQ pentamelded, enough for every content.
    in 4 months you have enough tomestones for 2 full sets
    in 4 months you have hmm 128 rolls of savage gear (maybe more) let's say 16 pieces of equip and 2-3 upgrades for tomestone equip.

    So, if I did not do abyssmal errors you can BiS 3 jobs and HQ pentamelded the others.
    in 1-3-5 you can easily BiS the others.
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    I have 10,000 needles,
    I'm not a weaver,
    and I'm not scared to use them.

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    Zaniel Taephen
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    Sophia
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 100
    Best? Probably 2 roles (roles not classes). Decent? All of them, easily.
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