Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

[Stormpeaks]

That can't be right, can it? An FC can't own multiple houses, at least not anymore (because I remember a time where at least individual owners could have multiple houses). And that tag means that it's an FC-owned house, not something by an individual. Something's not right with that image. Probably an exploit or something. Especially since, correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the 25th Ward a recent addition? One added in after the restrictions started being put in place on individual owners?

If that's the case then that doesn't appear to be happening under normal circumstances.

So, yeah sure, you have multiple open plots. But the bigger question is how the heck are they keeping those plots to begin with when it, I assume, shouldn't be possible? At least not as of the implementation of the 25th ward?

Edit: I got a possible answer. One group, multiple FC's, same name, usually with alts. If so, Square likely won't bother to look into it, since they treat it as a different FC each time.

The issue in this picture is that the ward is deserted because no one wants goblet, and these people are taking the plots that no one wants. Which in itself is not an issue at all, there's also PLENTY plots available in that same ward as well.

[Oizen]

The issue in this picture is that the ward is deserted because no one wants goblet, and these people are taking the plots that no one wants. Which in itself is not an issue at all, there's also PLENTY plots available in that same ward as well.

You better stop talkin shit about the goblet.

[ameliaw]

2023 and We're STILL seeing multiple instances of a single FC trying to take over a ward, on a populated server no less. THIS.SHOULD.NOT.BE.HAPPENING.

This is on a FC ward, why do you care? They won't remove the FC ward restriction and FC plots are so easy to get that this barely matters.
Besides, 7thbr is a very large FC. They could be using different members to create these instead of alts, so SE wouldn't be able to do anything anyway.

[Midareyukki]

The issue in this picture is that the ward is deserted because no one wants goblet, and these people are taking the plots that no one wants. Which in itself is not an issue at all, there's also PLENTY plots available in that same ward as well.

The "same" FC taking over the entire ward is also a problem in and of itself. But it's within SE's legal parameters, so there's not much that's going to be done about it.

As for the open plots, even if the Goblet is an underappreciated housing district (which it is, let's not deny that, people...), there's also the fact that some of those plots might be open due to relocations. So it's not like every single one is vacant out of choice, some literally just opened up but are locked until the next round. So on that note, I'm giving it some benefit of the doubt.

I posted a while ago that my own FC's ward in the Empyreum, a popular location for housing, had a bunch of plots open. Those likely happened to relocations. So stuff like this is normal, and it's not telling people to bid for them that's going to change it.

Deceptus's post is pointing out at the "same" FC taking over several plots. And if this is possible and a recurring problem in more crowded servers, then it's still a problem, regardless of how many plots are available at whichever location. This could be happening in the Lavender Beds too, it wouldn't matter. The problem Deceptus is pointing toward is this being a possibility to begin with. Not whether or not there are plenty of plots open.

This is on a FC ward, why do you care? They won't remove the FC ward restriction and FC plots are so easy to get that this barely matters.

That's the thing. It's within SE's standards, so this can happen without much of a problem.

The real issue is that if this happens in more popular wards, there's just a bunch of houses being taken up when they could house more FCs.

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I'm gonna see this thread lack chill again, aren't I?

[ameliaw]

The "same" FC taking over the entire ward is also a problem in and of itself. But it's within SE's legal parameters, so there's not much that's going to be done about it.

As for the open plots, even if the Goblet is an underappreciated housing district (which it is, let's not deny that, people...), there's also the fact that some of those plots might be open due to relocations. So it's not like every single one is vacant out of choice, some literally just opened up but are locked until the next round. So on that note, I'm giving it some benefit of the doubt.

I posted a while ago that my own FC's ward in the Empyreum, a popular location for housing, had a bunch of plots open. Those likely happened to relocations. So stuff like this is normal, and it's not telling people to bid for them that's going to change it.

Deceptus's post is pointing out at the "same" FC taking over several plots. And if this is possible and a recurring problem in more crowded servers, then it's still a problem, regardless of how many plots are available at whichever location. This could be happening in the Lavender Beds too, it wouldn't matter. The problem Deceptus is pointing toward is this being a possibility to begin with. Not whether or not there are plenty of plots open.

Goblet FC plots never sold out in Behemoth. It's not an issue at all here, since 6.1.

[Stormpeaks]

You better stop talkin shit about the goblet.

Hey I love Goblet, especially 19/49 are my favorites in there, there's that one Roe flexing in front of it all the time !

The "same" FC taking over the entire ward is also a problem in and of itself. But it's within SE's legal parameters, so there's not much that's going to be done about it.

As for the open plots, even if the Goblet is an underappreciated housing district (which it is, let's not deny that, people...), there's also the fact that some of those plots might be open due to relocations. So it's not like every single one is vacant out of choice, some literally just opened up but are locked until the next round. So on that note, I'm giving it some benefit of the doubt.

I posted a while ago that my own FC's ward in the Empyreum, a popular location for housing, had a bunch of plots open. Those likely happened to relocations. So stuff like this is normal, and it's not telling people to bid for them that's going to change it.

Deceptus's post is pointing out at the "same" FC taking over several plots. And if this is possible and a recurring problem in more crowded servers, then it's still a problem, regardless of how many plots are available at whichever location. This could be happening in the Lavender Beds too, it wouldn't matter. The problem Deceptus is pointing toward is this being a possibility to begin with. Not whether or not there are plenty of plots open.



That's the thing. It's within SE's standards, so this can happen without much of a problem.

The real issue is that if this happens in more popular wards, there's just a bunch of houses being taken up when they could house more FCs.

...

I'm gonna see this thread lack chill again, aren't I?

Except FC's dont want Goblet, as shows that picture, only 4 "real" fcs are in there, while the rest would have been empty without the few plots that the other person took.

[Reinha]

As for the open plots, even if the Goblet is an underappreciated housing district (which it is, let's not deny that, people...), there's also the fact that some of those plots might be open due to relocations. So it's not like every single one is vacant out of choice, some literally just opened up but are locked until the next round. So on that note, I'm giving it some benefit of the doubt.

Ward 25 has only had one result period so it isn't possible that an fc has relocated away from there. Those plots were uncontested in round 1 and still no one wanted them.

[Deceptus]

The issue in this picture is that the ward is deserted because no one wants goblet, and these people are taking the plots that no one wants. Which in itself is not an issue at all, there's also PLENTY plots available in that same ward as well.

Roulette is still going on and those plots aren't finished.

Housing is housing and every FC plot another grabs up is one in the future that can't be accessed by a new FC looking to establish themselves.

Hey I love Goblet, especially 19/49 are my favorites in there, there's that one Roe flexing in front of it all the time !

Except FC's dont want Goblet, as shows that picture, only 4 "real" fcs are in there, while the rest would have been empty without the few plots that the other person took.

Because the "premium" ones would attempt to be obtained first and then when not acquired, FC's would go looking to wherever they could get, in this case, would have been Goblet if 7thBR wouldn't have swallowed them up.

This is on a FC ward, why do you care? They won't remove the FC ward restriction and FC plots are so easy to get that this barely matters.
Besides, 7thbr is a very large FC. They could be using different members to create these instead of alts, so SE wouldn't be able to do anything anyway.

Why are you defending FC's taking more than the 1 alotted spot they're supposed to have? The only reasons a FC would do that that are

1) Vanity (because they can)
2) The player / alt using the "FC" plot as a personal house with is against the TOS.

[ameliaw]

Roulette is still going on and those plots aren't finished.

Housing is housing and every FC plot another grabs up is one in the future that can't be accessed by a new FC looking to establish themselves.




Because the "premium" ones would attempt to be obtained first and then when not acquired, FC's would go looking to wherever they could get, in this case, would have been Goblet if 7thBR wouldn't have swallowed them up.



Why are you defending FC's taking more than the 1 alotted spot they're supposed to have? The only reasons a FC would do that that are

1) Vanity (because they can)
2) The player / alt using the "FC" plot as a personal house with is against the TOS.

It is not against TOS. And yeah, they do it because they can, but again its a non-issue since supply for FCs in Behemoth is much higher than the demand and has been since 6.1. There's no reason to care about this.

[Stormpeaks]

Roulette is still going on and those plots aren't finished.

Housing is housing and every FC plot another grabs up is one in the future that can't be accessed by a new FC looking to establish themselves.




Because the "premium" ones would attempt to be obtained first and then when not acquired, FC's would go looking to wherever they could get, in this case, would have been Goblet if 7thBR wouldn't have swallowed them up.



Why are you defending FC's taking more than the 1 alotted spot they're supposed to have? The only reasons a FC would do that that are

1) Vanity (because they can)
2) The player / alt using the "FC" plot as a personal house with is against the TOS.

It's not agaisnt TOS, that's first of all.

And for the second part, they didnt "swallow them up", no one bid on them. It was uncontested. If people decided to go to shiro, mist, lb or empy, that's on them, those people decided to go to goblet where it'd be uncontested, good on them.