My take on the simplicity of healers and the healer problem

[Jybril]

Please bring back HW AST.

[Coatl]

They are going to destroy AST come 7.0.

[IkaraGreydancer]

They are going to destroy AST come 7.0.

Ast has been lacking (imo) since after SB

[seerstone]

its upsetting watching people claim adding more abilities to a healer would make them “too strong” we should be able to have fun, strong tool kits, that we use frequently. i will never drop healing, even after leveling other classes, and like everyone else i just want to see some fun and beneficial changes.

[Deceptus]

its upsetting watching people claim adding more abilities to a healer would make them “too strong” we should be able to have fun, strong tool kits, that we use frequently. i will never drop healing, even after leveling other classes, and like everyone else i just want to see some fun and beneficial changes.

Warrior is the only job allowed to have massive mitigation, massive heals, and decent damage thank you very much (heavy /s)

[MaxCarnage]

Unfortunately, I doubt they will ever make healing more involved.

Since they made it against ToS to give any unsolicited advice about how to more effectively play your role, the skill ceiling has dropped exponentially. It gets to the point where as a healer, I barely even get to cast my glare/fall malefic because I'm too busy hardcasting heals and rezzes from running out of instants. People are eating dirt left, right, and centre and you can't say a damn thing to them about it.

Most DPS can't even be bothered to use their full kit. Heck, I saw people discussing in shout chat about how Bard is too complicated and they'll never play it. Bard! Not to mention the thread I saw recently about people wanting to have PVP combos in PVE.

I've seen healers spamming cure III when only the tank has damage missing and just needs a regen. I've seen healers that HAVE to have medica II up at all times and don't use anything else. I've seen healers that don't even DPS in 90 content. Just cast a heal once in a while.

So because people want things even more simplified, and the general skill level of the player base has declined so much, I genuinely don't think they willever make a more intriguing healer design. Which is unfortunate. They game was a lot less annoying when people could be called out for being bad. It made people actually try, just a little bit.

[Raoabolic]

Ast has been lacking (imo) since after SB

Just because something is lacking doesn't mean you have to kill it off. Wasn't that the whole point of Elpis? lmao

[IkaraGreydancer]

Unfortunately, I doubt they will ever make healing more involved.

Since they made it against ToS to give any unsolicited advice about how to more effectively play your role, the skill ceiling has dropped exponentially. It gets to the point where as a healer, I barely even get to cast my glare/fall malefic because I'm too busy hardcasting heals and rezzes from running out of instants. People are eating dirt left, right, and centre and you can't say a damn thing to them about it.

Most DPS can't even be bothered to use their full kit. Heck, I saw people discussing in shout chat about how Bard is too complicated and they'll never play it. Bard! Not to mention the thread I saw recently about people wanting to have PVP combos in PVE.

I've seen healers spamming cure III when only the tank has damage missing and just needs a regen. I've seen healers that HAVE to have medica II up at all times and don't use anything else. I've seen healers that don't even DPS in 90 content. Just cast a heal once in a while.

So because people want things even more simplified, and the general skill level of the player base has declined so much, I genuinely don't think they willever make a more intriguing healer design. Which is unfortunate. They game was a lot less annoying when people could be called out for being bad. It made people actually try, just a little bit.

I talk to people about this stuff all the time when applicable and have never been reported.

[VerdeLuck]

As long a they place so much emphasis on buff stacking and 2min burst meta, they never will.
Because the only way to make WHM (and SGE) competetive would be by giving it a proper burst but that would include adding buttons that deal damage instead of yet another generic oGCD heal nobody asked for. As long as they split healers between "11111" and "11111 but with a cool buff everyone loves you for", WHM and SGE will always fall behind in dps over the expansion and be the 2nd choice for groups that go for pushing dps unless really early into tier when people are happy to have some crafted gear. Give it 2-3 weeks and they're left in the dust. And putting Assize on 40s to align with 2min didn't fix it either. Consistent dps is just not competetive as long as we have this 2min burst meta but that's what all healers are. Having a Phlegma or an Assize doesn't change anything.

Then it seems like it's time to give WHM and SGE 2 minute buff skills so they can contribute to burst as well. AST and SCH being head and shoulders above the others becasue they have 2 minute burst, but also all the capabilities (if not more utility, shielding, and mit) seems like a bad way to balance the healers.

[VerdeLuck]

I talk to people about this stuff all the time when applicable and have never been reported.

It's pretty safe to say that when people say "You can't call out bads without being reported" are just flat out toxic when they're in game. I've never gotten warned or sat down by a GM ever and I've called people out a few times for not doing the bare minimum, you just can't tell people to uninstall or yell about parses.