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  1. #321
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    People hit the slippery slopes of how there will no longer be race/gender identity if the new sitting poses were made gender neutral. Still waiting on someone to answer whether you can have random sitting poses like the random idle standing poses or if that argument was complete BS. I would check in game but I can't since I am at work
    I looked the other day and you can't. Idle cycling works only for standing (I have that enabled). Can log on later and show settings once I'm able.

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    Last edited by RobynDaBank; 01-27-2023 at 08:13 PM.

  2. #322
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    I looked the other day and you can't. Idle cycling works only for standing (I have that enabled). Can log on later and show settings once I'm able.
    Cool, so the only impact on everyone else is that they have to cycle through a couple extra poses while sitting...
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  3. #323
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amenara View Post
    Cool, so the only impact on everyone else is that they have to cycle through a couple extra poses while sitting...
    Anyone using that as an argument against it has obviously never used that feature before.
    I've had that feature enabled since it was introduced and it has never rotated through my sit animations.
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  4. #324
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    The reason I looked at the "most viewed" (not most downloaded) is because it gives an insight to how many people visit that site and where their interests lie. It establishes a baseline number. If 664k people (the number from the highest viewed mod) looked at one mod then it shows that at least 664k people are using mods. Of those 664k modders you've now established exist, 30k or so show an interest in a particular mod. That establishes a percentage. 30k viewers of that one mod is 4.5% of the 664k known modders. If the number of modders is higher than your baseline and the number of views on that one particular mod remains the same then its over all percentage value decreases.

    Nobody said anywhere that there isn't going to be demand from outside the forums either.
    Late to the party but that's not how that works. 664k people can download one mod but hundreds of thousands of others can ignore said mod and view/download others instead. You can get a loose estimation but it's definitely not reflective of the entire community to judge off one mod. I'm gonna go off assumption and say the mod you looked at was a body mod because they tend to be popular. There's actually dozens of different kinds of bodies to choose from and the community tends to use three in particular but there are a healthy portion that use the other more specific ones (androgynous for example). The same can also be applied to clothes, hair, makeup, etc. I assure you, there are more than 664k modders in this game. XD Try closer to a million or more at this point.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 01-27-2023 at 07:11 PM.

  5. #325
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    Joven's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Late to the party but that's not how that works. 664k people can download one mod but hundreds of thousands of others can ignore said mod and view/download others instead. You can get a loose estimation but it's definitely not reflective of the entire community to judge off one mod. I'm gonna go off assumption and say the mod you looked at was a body mod because they tend to be popular. There's actually dozens of different kinds of bodies to choose from and the community tends to use three in particular but there are a healthy portion that use the other more specific ones (androgynous for example). The same can also be applied to clothes, hair, makeup, etc. I assure you, there are more than 664k modders in this game. XD Try closer to a million or more at this point.
    Uh, yeah, that's kind of the point. It doesn't matter if they only look and move on. The fact they're there means they're either already modding, or looking to get into it. Either way it's a minor baseline number. Obviously there are going to be more than that. I never claimed that was the total number of modders. Which makes the comparable percentage of people looking at/downloading the particular mod in question on here significantly lower.
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  6. #326
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Uh, yeah, that's kind of the point. It doesn't matter if they only look and move on. The fact they're there means they're either already modding, or looking to get into it. Either way it's a minor baseline number. Obviously there are going to be more than that. I never claimed that was the total number of modders. Which makes the comparable percentage of people looking at/downloading the particular mod in question here significantly lower.
    I'm referring to the people that don't look at it at all. You're not accounting for everyone, that's my point. You can get a loose estimation but not a number that actually reflects the entire community. I used body mods as an example because there are multiple and totaling those together would give a more closer number but still wouldn't account for those who still use the vanilla body.

    Pretty much the way you phrased it came off like you were basing the entire community off one mod. If that wasn't your intention then fair enough but that's how your discussion read to me.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 01-27-2023 at 07:24 PM.

  7. #327
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    I'm referring to the people that don't look at it at all. You're not accounting for everyone, that's my point.
    I don't have to. All I need is a large enough number to start with to have something to compare to. There are at least, something I've said several times in multiple posts, 664k modders. As such 30k modders, for the poses, equates to only 4.5% of that number. Obviously as the number of modders is increased by however many, then the percentage value of the mod in question will decrease.
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    Last edited by Joven; 01-27-2023 at 07:28 PM.


    Gamers don't die, we just go AFK

    #ottergate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
    See things like this are what make having all the sitting positions worth. It is the little things in life that cannot be tied down to a number. Seeing a lala sit like a catboi makes me smile from ear to ear. Share the joy!

    Edit:Going to take the hit to my account. What exactly is wrong with stuff like this?







    Seems like a weird hill to die on to try and refuse stuff like this, but that is just me. I understand and respect the difference in opinions. Just seems fairly harmless to me, and I just never got the whole slippery slop arguments tbh.
    you a female man spreading ? eww gross you need to be more feminate. Or you guy siting as a girl? you need to masculine /s

    what wrong with people not having more options. All jokes aside there are women npc squatting in kugene.

    Feel like people need to touch some grass or something. there are tomboys and tomgirls in the world.
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

  9. #329
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axxion View Post
    you a female man spreading ? eww gross you need to be more feminate. Or you guy siting as a girl? you need to masculine /s

    what wrong with people not having more options. All jokes aside there are women npc squatting in kugene.

    Feel like people need to touch some grass or something. there are tomboys and tomgirls in the world.
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    Gamers don't die, we just go AFK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Go outside you look more pale then lord voldemort

    Need you get some air because you starting to smell like a biohazard

    better?
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    for a year, would you rather be secretly filmed at random moments and have the footage uploaded to your social media or loose $100 when ever you said a curse word?

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