Ungendered sit poses, please?

[Midareyukki]

This thread:

[Padudu]

LMAO tbf from the second gender and unisex was mentioned, this thread never had a chance

[Joven]

I didn't prove that, I literally only proved that insisting on that is stupid bcos you truly don't know how many people want it, outside the forum. You, Joven, me all have no idea how big the demand is. Hell, like I said earlier, SE is taking the time to make gendered outfits unisex, so reasonably if they are catering to that "small" (which again, you and I can't say for certain is small or not lmao) population of people, then it's more than reasonable to assume the population of players who would like more sitting positions is higher than you'd like to admit. You and Joven are pretty set on tunnel visioning on numbers, when I already said that wasn't the point, and again ignoring the fact that you can't reasonably know what is a "small number" or not. Man, we've been over this, and no amount of 'lalala' and putting fingers in your ear can fix that.

Look dude, if I offended you bcos the idea of a woman with cat ears squatting or sitting like a man disgusts you or you think making sitting positions unisex will please Twitter leftists, I am so sorry lol

"You can't use numbers to prove anything. You just have to trust me bro."

You're the one who pulled up a source outside the forums in an attempt to prove mass appeal. When that source came up short you want to backtrack by saying numbers don't matter.

[DRHaymaker]

I didn't prove that

I'm glad I don't need a passport to visit De Nile.

Look dude, if I offended you

Your flippant assumption is unneeded. Though I must, once again point out that everything with you people boils down to feelings.

Reasons were given that had nothing to do with feeling offended. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

[Padudu]

"You can't use numbers to prove anything. You just have to trust me bro."

You're the one who pulled up a source outside the forums in an attempt to prove mass appeal. When that source came up short you want to backtrack by saying number don't matter.

????????????? Yeah and you're the one who literally puffed up your statement of "small number of people is actually just the forum bro trust me" and are still going along with it LMAO. Bro I never, ever once said the numbers mattered. YOU came in this thread talking about 60k views for a booty mod. I literally told you to go look at the forbidden sites because there was outside demand for it.

[Padudu]

I'm glad I don't need a passport to visit De Nile.



Your flippant assumption is unneeded. Though I must, once again point out that everything with you people boils down to feelings.

Reasons were given that had nothing to do with feeling offended. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

Because I'm tired of people catering to the mentality of children that want what they can't have, and are perpetually unhappy. I defend the devs decisions to have SOME gender/race specific aspects.

It's never enough. Everything is progress with you people. Nothing is ever good/great, everything "could be better" or "a good first step". There is always something you realize you don't/can't have. It's never something that has a strong impact on people, it's always something some four figure amount of people out of the MILLIONS that play want, and it's always the same emotionally based arguments for it; "Why are you against something that makes other people happy?" "You don't even care." "How does it harm you?".

Enough of you people.

For someone who is really into saying "it's all about your FEELINGS", you sure do feel something yourself lmao. I don't really need to make assumptions when your transparency is set at 100%.

[DRHaymaker]

I literally told you to go look at the forbidden sites because there was outside demand for it.

...and the "outside demand" was small. Tiny. Miniscule.

You're going in circles. Simply saying "There's a demand for this" while arbitrarily handwaving the size of said demand is dishonest as it comes.

Not with us, mind you, yourself.

Edit: Speaking of dishonesty...

For someone who is really into saying "it's all about your FEELINGS", you sure do feel something yourself lmao. I don't really need to make assumptions when you're transparency is set at 100%.

Yes, I too have personal opinions, but I've also given things based on the game's age rating, pointed out other people's arguments, used numbers that you brought up, used numbers used by the community to get an idea of active players... that's not all feelings based.

[Padudu]

...and the "outside demand" was small. Tiny. Miniscule.

You're going in circles. Simply saying "There's a demand for this" while arbitrarily handwaving the size of said demand is dishonest as it comes.

Not with us, mind you, yourself.

Okay so show me where it's small. Like, actual numbers then. I pointed to one forbidden site out of like what, a good few of them? Something tells me that you can't and all you can do is tunnel vision on these numbers because again, you wouldn't have a point. :^) We can go in circles all you'd like, but point is that you don't have an idea of the actual demand, neither do I, but SE knows the demand is there otherwise they wouldn't put in the effort in making things unisex.

Yes, I too have personal opinions, but I've also given things based on the game's age rating, pointed out other people's arguments, used numbers that you brought up, used numbers used by the community to get an idea of active players... that's not all feelings based.

Okay so this is my personal opinion as well, so why try to weaponize feelings as an aspect when you yourself obviously have strong AF feelings for this topic

I never brought up numbers. Again, that was Joven when they brought up the booty mod.

"Numbers used by the community", LOL ok. 25 million players or whatever is not accurate either. 25 million players are not actively playing the game, my dude. Just so you know.

Dude, just accept the fact this is all just based on our thoughts. It's okay fam. You brought up the ratings because you felt that it was in the right, even though there are aspects of this game that could easily skewer that T rating into an M. FFS dude there was a straight up suicide in Endwalker even if it was offscreen.

[Joven]

????????????? Yeah and you're the one who literally puffed up your statement of "small number of people is actually just the forum bro trust me" and are still going along with it LMAO. Bro I never, ever once said the numbers mattered. YOU came in this thread talking about 60k views for a booty mod. I literally told you to go look at the forbidden sites because there was outside demand for it.

I never said it was "just the forums, trust me bro". Do you honestly think the devs are going to look through modding sites to see what interests people?

So since you seem dead set on being oblivious I will explain it a bit slower for you: That 664k views for the "booty mod" is a metric to see how many people are using mods. Because there are 664k people just on that one mod, it means there are at least 664k people modding. You can use that as minor baseline projection towards how other mods compare to the total number of modders since there are at least 664k modders. Any more than that and the percentages start to go down.

[DRHaymaker]

Okay so show me where it's small. Like, actual numbers then.

I've already done that. You seem to have no problem going back to previous posts in an effort to (unsuccessfully) "own" me, so you can certainly find out where I use numbers that YOU provided, and what the Lucky Bancho survey provides.

You are never going to abandon that argument. I won't let you.