Housing Roulette was an absolute trash idea.

[Saraide]

Imagine hating yourself and your time so much you want competitive sign clicking back.

[Seraphor]

Take. The. Houses. That. Are. Available.

This is Zodiark, there are ENOUGH larges available, stop trying to strip things away from people.

https://imgur.com/a/SNHYiAC

On top of all of the larges, there's about 120 mediums also open, and NO LESS than 920 small houses available.

I don't disagree with you... I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

People should absolutely take what is available. Hundreds of smalls are available, much fewer mediums and larges are available. Thus the system should encourage smalls over mediums and larges.

I'm not complaining from a personal point of view. I'm brainstorming a system that's more fair for everyone.

Now I have people screaming at me that my suggestion is too expensive and should be more accessible, and others screaming at me that everyone already has a chance at what they want and it's ok that people circumvent the system. It's like... there's no pleasing people.

[Amenara]

I don't disagree with you... I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

I'm not complaining from a personal point of view. I'm brainstorming a system that's more fair for everyone.

Now I have people screaming at me that my suggestion is too expensive and should be more accessible, and others screaming at me that everyone already has a chance at what they want and it's ok that people circumvent the system. It's like... there's no pleasing people.

More fair for everyone is SE fixes the supply issue on every server. Until that happens (if ever) lottery is about the most fair for everyone that it is going to get.

Edit: Also SE needs to close their loopholes that have existed and everyone has known about for almost a year.

[Seraphor]

More fair for everyone is SE fixes the supply issue on every server. Until that happens (if ever) lottery is about the most fair for everyone that it is going to get.

Again, I don't disagree???

Do people just assume because I'm posting in this topic I automatically side with the TC???

[Stormpeaks]

More fair for everyone is SE fixes the supply issue on every server. Until that happens (if ever) lottery is about the most fair for everyone that it is going to get.

Edit: Also SE needs to close their loopholes that have existed and everyone has known about for almost a year.

Just take the small houses available.

Balmung is an exception, and if you are there you deserve it, you know how it is, you are free to move.

[Amenara]

Again, I don't disagree???

Do people just assume because I'm posting in this topic I automatically side with the TC???

Not saying you don't, just pointing out that this is the best we are going to get till supply is fixed. Increased prices aren't going to change anything other than skew the system towards people who have been playing longer, which is unfair in itself. The other issue is that it will encourage people to RMT to afford the higher prices, especially if it is something that is patched in without much notice for people to accumulate gil, which again would be unfair towards newer players.

Just take the small houses available.

Balmung is an exception, and if you are there you deserve it, you know how it is, you are free to move.

I agree, if you are trying to purchase your first house and all that are available are smalls, should be an easy choice. I also agree that if housing means that much to you there is a very large supply on Dynamis for NA players and DC travel is a thing so you can still do things with your friends.

[Seraphor]

Not saying you don't, just pointing out that this is the best we are going to get till supply is fixed. Increased prices aren't going to change anything other than skew the system towards people who have been playing longer, which is unfair in itself. The other issue is that it will encourage people to RMT to afford the higher prices, especially if it is something that is patched in without much notice for people to accumulate gil, which again would be unfair towards newer players.

The current prices aren't exactly easily accessible for newer players as it is, and I don't see lowering the prices any further to be a decent suggestion or feasible. It is after all intended to be a gil sink.
Gil seems to be getting easier and easier for players to amass, generating inflation (because not enough gold sinks), and inflation ultimately leads to a larger divide between newer and older players anyway.

The entire system, from purchasing the plot, to building the house, to buying the furnishings, and for FCs, building the airships/subs, it all takes vast amounts of gil. It's not something new players are getting into right away anyway.
My intention was to suggest something that fit this reality a little better, and maybe increasing the prices of Small's is entirely unnecessary, as this would make Small's a feasible goal for newer players still. But Mediums and Larges are almost certainly under-priced for the economy in this game, they should require time investment and preparation, and should be a longer term goal for players who have been around a bit longer. Just as Clearing an Ultimate is a long term goal you set for yourself after you clear Savages, which is after you clear Extremes, and so on.
Again, I say this as someone who merely has a Small and is entirely content with it. I have no stake in this.

If this system would get more players moving away from the Mediums and Larges with 50+ bids per lottery round, and more towards the Smalls with 0-2 bids per lottery round, then it's doing something productive.

[Amenara]

I kind of disagree about smalls not being accessible to newer players, probably not at the end of ARR, but towards the end of HW I was closing in on the 3m mark on one of my alts. Granted that comes with prior knowledge and selling most of the quest rewards. Maybe it has changed since I last did a play through, but I think the gil should be obtainable by SB or ShB for a lot of newer players, especially if they were in the save gil mindset with a goal of purchasing a house.

[Midareyukki]

The people who own Larges already have this kind of money, and I'm not one of them, I'm happy with my small and I wouldn't even be able to afford 40m for the Medium via my suggestion anyway. I have literally priced myself out of my own suggested system, because I think it's fairer.

It baffles me how single players can buy Larges up and basically do nothing with them while actual FC's are forced into Small's, even when they have the money for a Large.

By forcing more than 8 players (should even be active players, that have been online in the past x days) that forces those who would circumvent this system to pay for two subscriptions per house instead of one. That alone is halving the problem right away.
Better yet, is they should be able to discern characters owned by a single account, so that it requires 8+ unique accounts per FC. If you have alts in an FC, it should be able to recognise that they're all the same account and only count it as 1 character.

Many people have told you before it's not going to be putting restrictions on people that's going to solve anything. It hasn't solved the plot hoarders, who do circumvent the demolition timers anyway, so insisting on that is even more needless. Those people you're taking issue with, those who hoard plots and keep Larges without making use of them, won't magically go away just because you put a timer on them. They haven't, and they won't.

There are several ways to deal with this. Insisting on putting restrictions that are going to hit everyone, not just large plot hoarders who already circumvent every timer in the book, is not going to garner any favour.

[SlouchyBard]

There is a small that has 3 bidders on it, with a 4th checking it out, and another small across the street that has 0. Its not the FC ward, so I can't imagine it was FC bidders.