Also the people being overly cynical over Venat and Hermes? How about how manipulative Crystal Exarch and Emet-Selch were over the WoL and the Scions, especially with how they just thrusted the dangerous responsibility of the WoL to consume the light even though it was brought up multiple times that this might be bad but people brushed it off till the last minute were it became an issue. The characters actively ignored this but suddenly it made it all ok because Ardbert came at the last second to save us? Where were the cynics arguing over how scummy and contrived this plot point was?