Botting on the marketboard. Impossible to sell anything.

[Jojoya]

It would only apply if you actually adjust the price, not if you check the price or check your retainer.

I disagree on who long it would take a affect bots. Bots relist more often, plain and simple. Relisting more equates to higher fees eating into their profits. They would take a greater hit if they relist too often. The solution is for bots to relist less often, which essentially blunts the advantage of marketboard bots.

If it actually worked as you want it to work so the fee was only charged if the price was changed, then I'd be fine with it.

Only SE knows if that is something technically feasible that could be accomplished. My instinct considering how the system currently works and some of the other apparent issues with their coding is that it would be a right mess to achieve and likely to introduce bugs to other parts of the market system.

[dspguy]

If it actually worked as you want it to work so the fee was only charged if the price was changed, then I'd be fine with it.

Only SE knows if that is something technically feasible that could be accomplished. My instinct considering how the system currently works and some of the other apparent issues with their coding is that it would be a right mess to achieve and likely to introduce bugs to other parts of the market system.

I don't write their software, so maybe it is more difficult than I imagine it. As a software developer by trade that commonly has to rework other developers' code, it doesn't sound too daunting. They already take a fee when it sells. Set that fee to 0%. Add a fee when you list of 1% or whatever. That triggers anytime a player brings up the "Adjust Price" window either by clicking "adjust price" on an already listed item or "Put Up For Sale" out of your own (or retainer's) inventory.

However, maybe they are dealing with spaghetti code worse than I deal with daily and isn't a simple fix. Or maybe they just don't care to address it.

[Seraphor]

I don't write their software, so maybe it is more difficult than I imagine it. As a software developer by trade that commonly has to rework other developers' code, it doesn't sound too daunting. They already take a fee when it sells. Set that fee to 0%. Add a fee when you list of 1% or whatever. That triggers anytime a player brings up the "Adjust Price" window either by clicking "adjust price" on an already listed item or "Put Up For Sale" out of your own (or retainer's) inventory.

However, maybe they are dealing with spaghetti code worse than I deal with daily and isn't a simple fix. Or maybe they just don't care to address it.

This would just lead to more extreme undercutting.
If you have to commit to your listed price, you're not going to risk undercutting the current lowest listing by 1 gil when there's a very real chance you'll be undercut in a few minutes anyway.
May as well get ahead of the race to the bottom and place your item for sale 100k lower to start with.

Not everyone is trying to play the system, most people just want to get rid of their junk, and you only have 40 slots as standard, so you can't have these things lying around for weeks waiting to sell. Price low to get rid of them ASAP.

[dspguy]

This would just lead to more extreme undercutting.
If you have to commit to your listed price, you're not going to risk undercutting the current lowest listing by 1 gil when there's a very real chance you'll be undercut in a few minutes anyway.
May as well get ahead of the race to the bottom and place your item for sale 100k lower to start with.

Good points. However, maybe that is exactly what we need.

People gather for the sake of gathering. Not because there is a "need" for some items. Some people craft even though the market is already inundated. Maybe they would spend some time seeing what is actually needed before spending their time on farming.