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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    As a SCH main, I don't want it get taken away and I'll definitely get upset if the solution is yet again "delete it" instead of working on the flaws. If someone wants to play SCH without ED then I'll kindly direct them towards SGE.
    If the choice is only "get it taken away or keep it" then I'll always choose "keep it" because this and Dissipation is the last, sad bit of a skill ceiling we have left since it allows us to optimize a bit more even if the reward is boring. At least the path to optimizing it is still fun, requires coordination and a little bit of skill.
    If they could rework it into something far better then by all means, go ahead.
    But just deleting it? No. And from the reactions many other SCH mains seem to feel the same. SE has a habit of just deleting things without giving anything back. That is exactly the reason why we are where we are and part of the playerbase is definitely also guilty of pushing for just deleting something instead of reworking it into something better.
    I could say the same thing about cards as an AST main. It's like the community wants everything as DPS centric as possible and then acts surprised when SE deletes stuff. At least let me keep Lord and Lady as RNG now that all cards are Balance and I'm pressing Divination on CD. Riveting.
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    Esther Harper
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Payadopa View Post
    I could say the same thing about cards as an AST main. It's like the community wants everything as DPS centric as possible and then acts surprised when SE deletes stuff. At least let me keep Lord and Lady as RNG now that all cards are Balance and I'm pressing Divination on CD. Riveting.
    The community doesn't "act surprised".
    There were a lot of suggestions back then to make cards work without giving you an easy and way too obvious best choice including things like splitting damage and utility cards. SE heavily focusses their game on dps, especially during the expansion AST was introduced but then they act surprised that don't go for the RP gameplay instead of what is, unfortunately obviously, a good choice. That a 20% aoe damage buff would be completely busted isn't rocket science. They also tried to fix Lilies for the entire SB expansion because they couldn't believe that somoene would not spam Cure 1/2 often enough to trigger rng cooldown reaction on a few skills.

    But whenever something isn't taken positively by the community as it is, they try to enforce it a bit longer (as in for an entire expansion) like with Lilies and then they simply scrape it completely with a "See! You asked for it! Now look what you did! Now you'll just get a boring version because you didn't like our good, nuanced, RP gameplay version!" and some people in the community are all too happy to blame and point fingers just the same, completely ignoring that that there was always a lot of feedback about questionable design choices and that it SE's job to read and filter feedback and then try to make things work that the community likes at its core but still has flaws.

    You can stop lowkey blaming the filthy savage raiders now, it's getting really old.
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