My take on the simplicity of healers and the healer problem

[CaptainLagbeard]

I don't want my fairies to do different things, UNLESS I can assign myself what I want each fairy to do on a skill-by-skill basis, that way each fairy can be different and tailor made by each SCH.

Well, it would more be that Eos and Selene having different skills like they used to way back in the day...
Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination were Eos' skills back then, who was always a more healing based skillset. Although I the current version of Illumination is a combination of it's old form and another skill called Fey Caress.

Selene, the more utility based fairy had 3 completely different skills.
Silent Dusk, an interrupt (an effect which was done as a 1s silence back in the past),
Fey Caress, AoE Esuna.
Fey Wind, 3% skill/spell speed to the party. This skill wouldn't really work nowadays as SCH wouldn't have a reason to not use it... So that would have to become something different.

[ty_taurus]

Well, it would more be that Eos and Selene having different skills like they used to way back in the day...
Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination were Eos' skills back then, who was always a more healing based skillset. Although I the current version of Illumination is a combination of it's old form and another skill called Fey Caress.

Selene, the more utility based fairy had 3 completely different skills.
Silent Dusk, an interrupt (an effect which was done as a 1s silence back in the past),
Fey Caress, AoE Esuna.
Fey Wind, 3% skill/spell speed to the party. This skill wouldn't really work nowadays as SCH wouldn't have a reason to not use it... So that would have to become something different.

Silent Dusk and Fey Caress were and still would be more worthless than SMN's Physick. As great as interrupt and debuff mechanics could be, SE would sooner release a pet job than include these mechanics into fights in any meaningful way. I think there is absolutely a dynamic that can be created between a healing pet and a utility pet, but there's no real point to salvaging anything from old Selene. It's also best to keep raid buffs off her as well because all that does is make Eos the crutch pet designed to be replaced by Selene, which is not a healthy balance either.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Silent Dusk and Fey Caress were and still would be more worthless than SMN's Physick. As great as interrupt and debuff mechanics could be, SE would sooner release a pet job than include these mechanics into fights in any meaningful way. I think there is absolutely a dynamic that can be created between a healing pet and a utility pet, but there's no real point to salvaging anything from old Selene. It's also best to keep raid buffs off her as well because all that does is make Eos the crutch pet designed to be replaced by Selene, which is not a healthy balance either.

Yea to salvage those skills, they would have to learn how to do new types of fights much to the team's horror. But I suppose it would have to remain something that SGE wouldn't completely fail at... Otherwise some people might complain about having to play SCH.

[ty_taurus]

On the topic of SCH's faeries, I've had an idea of a way to rework how they heal to make them a lot more responsive to actions like Fey Blessing and I'm curious how this sounds to others.

In this concept, Embrace is removed. Aetherpact's heal per tic is reduced to 150, it no longer consumes gauge, and the faerie can perform pet actions while the tether is active. This would have a 5 second cooldown, and your faerie can only be tethered to one person at a time. She will also follow whomever she's tethered to unless placed manually.

This effectively reworks Aetherpact into your faerie's uses of Embrace, which does a few things. First, it leaves her idle during most of the fight, allowing her to respond immediately to commands as Carbuncle does. Second, it allows you to funnel all her healing attention onto one person rather than her AI healing whomever she wants basically. It does slow down the rate at which she heals since it's based on the server tic of 3 seconds, whereas formerly and with SGE's Kardia, these can activate once per GCD of around 2.5 seconds. That said, the tics will always go off, whereas SGE's only occurs when they attack. So there are a fair amount of pros and cons to this concept. It's also possible that the tether's current particle effects are too bright to be up 100% of the time and might be frustrating to the tank, but this could be resolved by making the light bright when you first tether, but dims after the animation finishes, making it less distracting.

What are people's thoughts on a change like this?

[DiaDeem]

Well, it would more be that Eos and Selene having different skills like they used to way back in the day...
Whispering Dawn and Fey Illumination were Eos' skills back then, who was always a more healing based skillset. Although I the current version of Illumination is a combination of it's old form and another skill called Fey Caress.

Selene, the more utility based fairy had 3 completely different skills.
Silent Dusk, an interrupt (an effect which was done as a 1s silence back in the past),
Fey Caress, AoE Esuna.
Fey Wind, 3% skill/spell speed to the party. This skill wouldn't really work nowadays as SCH wouldn't have a reason to not use it... So that would have to become something different.

Yeah, I get that. Eos for Heals and Selene for DPS/Buffs. I guess my mind just went to XII's Gambits or XIII's Paradigms and I wondered what would be if we could interact more with our fairy in a pre-emptive way, with like a little thing you can program for the fairy to do some things on her own depending on the situation while still having access to abilities-on-command on a button. I think it would go with the theme of the Job and give us something truly unique for our healing style. I have no idea if it would work, but that would definitely make the job more fun, even though I already love it.

Also, gonna be honest: I didn't pick it up as my main until ShB so my experience with pre-ShB is a bit off hand, but I remember people mocking Selene because her Fey Wind in particular felt rather lackluster, or so people claimed. Was this true? Or was that another of those "It's actually good and people just meme on it". I'm genuinely curious, because the fairies seem to be what changed most from old SCH and the current one, barring the changes to the DPS stuff.

[Maltothoris]

Also, gonna be honest: I didn't pick it up as my main until ShB so my experience with pre-ShB is a bit off hand, but I remember people mocking Selene because her Fey Wind in particular felt rather lackluster, or so people claimed. Was this true? Or was that another of those "It's actually good and people just meme on it". I'm genuinely curious, because the fairies seem to be what changed most from old SCH and the current one, barring the changes to the DPS stuff.

If the fight was particularly lackluster in Damage, you went with Selene since her buff did provide I think over a 1% percent or so increased damage to the overall raid. Of course when you think about it like that. it does come off as very feeble overall since the Fey Wind Buff only lasted for 30 seconds and really only blm benefited from it.

In Heavensward however, it was Eos nearly exclusively just did so much healing for both the Sch and whoever their cohealer was.