We really should be able to glamour other jobs' sets

[Siddiax]

DRG and DRK both have other weapons in the game with a blunt appearance. I'm not sure of the names, but they exist. All the tanks have a knobbed / spiky blunt weapon. Here's one DRK blunt (apology accepted)

I doubt there's a single DRG weapon without at least one sharp end. You know, for all the poking they do. DRK have also always used swords, having one or two clubs doesn't change what they were designed around - big sword.

For BLM it's more of a staff than an actual hammer, so there's really nothing wrong with that. The same goes for WHM.

No it's not and calling it a staff is an insane stretch. Do you consider a WAR axe also a staff, just because it has a long handle ?

Reaper seems a little odd, but if it fits the animations, then I don't see a problem there either.

It doesn't fit them. All of Reaper's animations have clearly been made with a sharp, slicing weapon in mind. Unless you can slash things with a hammer ?

[Saraide]

I doubt there's a single DRG weapon without at least one sharp end. You know, for all the poking they do. DRK have also always used swords, having one or two clubs doesn't change what they were designed around - big sword.



No it's not and calling it a staff is an insane stretch. Do you consider a WAR axe also a staff, just because it has a long handle ?



It doesn't fit them. All of Reaper's animations have clearly been made with a sharp, slicing weapon in mind. Unless you can slash things with a hammer ?

Well, monster hunter has shown us the need to sharpen hammers lol

On a more serious note you are trying to argue with someone addicted to playing devil's advocate. You cant have an honest discussion with someone intentionally being dishonest.

[Raikai]

Well, monster hunter has shown us the need to sharpen hammers lol

On a more serious note you are trying to argue with someone addicted to playing devil's advocate. You cant have an honest discussion with someone intentionally being dishonest.

Idk what someone gets out of that but hey, to each their own.

There's also the biggest "fantasy-breaker" validated by the developers themselves and it is the joke contest weapons. A heck of an outlier if someone is even able to put them as one.

But the point with Gaia's example is: What is Squeenix's stance nowadays in this kind of direction, because although it is related to weapons, it also relates to the tired debacle about "mages can't wear plate because of job fantasy", that objectively holds zero strength today with what we can do already with the glamour system.

[Deveryn]

I doubt there's a single DRG weapon without at least one sharp end. You know, for all the poking they do. DRK have also always used swords, having one or two clubs doesn't change what they were designed around - big sword.

Correct. It doesn't change what they were designed around, but it doesn't mean they can't get creative once in a while. A blunt instrument wielded in the same fashion can still inflict damage. It's just going to be different.

You asked for a hammer example and I gave you a reasonably close response. The blunt pole is in there for DRG. I have no reason to make this up. I have little incentive to look it up, as you seem intent on dancing and dodging to try and not look foolish. I came here for proof of an axe that looks exactly like said hammer.

No it's not and calling it a staff is an insane stretch. Do you consider a WAR axe also a staff, just because it has a long handle ?

It's not a stretch at all. The stretch is trying to call this new hammer an axe.

It doesn't fit them. All of Reaper's animations have clearly been made with a sharp, slicing weapon in mind. Unless you can slash things with a hammer ?

Because it doesn't slash, it doesn't fit? Interesting logic. Like I said, it fits the animation, they're just bonking things and it's a bit more realistic to wield that over a scythe.

[Siddiax]

Correct. It doesn't change what they were designed around, but it doesn't mean they can't get creative once in a while. A blunt instrument wielded in the same fashion can still inflict damage. It's just going to be different.

You asked for a hammer example and I gave you a reasonably close response. The blunt pole is in there for DRG. I have no reason to make this up. I have little incentive to look it up, as you seem intent on dancing and dodging to try and not look foolish. I came here for proof of an axe that looks exactly like said hammer.

Spears and Blunt staves aren't used the same way. Even if they're a similar shape

They can also be creative as much as they want, just weird that they pretend to be super consistent. I've also never said there's an axe that looks like a hammer.

It's not a stretch at all. The stretch is trying to call this new hammer an axe.

I've never called the hammer an axe.

Because it doesn't slash, it doesn't fit? Interesting logic. Like I said, it fits the animation, they're just bonking things and it's a bit more realistic to wield that over a scythe.

It's funny that you're unable to cope with the fact that you're wrong, but my logic is correct

[Raikai]

I've never called the hammer an axe.

I did.

I suppose they took my joke seriously, but either it being whatever weapon, that's not important. That person missed the point of the earlier post, which is to contest the coherence of YP's statement about weapon X's appearance not ever being able to be used by job Y because it would look ridiculous or misplaced.

Yet we have now an example of how that statement doesn't hold. It doesn't matter if it is a hammer, an axe, a spear or the kitchen's sink.

[Deveryn]

I did.

I suppose they took my joke seriously, but either it being whatever weapon, that's not important. That person missed the point of the earlier post, which is to contest the coherence of YP's statement about weapon X's appearance not ever being able to be used by job Y because it would look ridiculous or misplaced.

Yet we have now an example of how that statement doesn't hold. It doesn't matter if it is a hammer, an axe, a spear or the kitchen's sink.

No. I knew you were full of it. Always have been. Always will be.

Starting to wonder if the devs have somehow been unaware this entire time that the Replica Sky Pirate/Rat sets are All Classes? Considering their track record both before and after their implementation...?

They're no doubt aware and decided to stop adding extra items like that to the log.

[Siddiax]

Unsure how I missed this, but the Manalis sets from the newest dungeon are straight up mind-blowing.

The Scouting set is quite literally a reskin of the Diabolic Fending set. Apparently Ninjas get to wear tank gear these days:

The actual Fending set is ironically less armored than the Scouting set:

As I've said before, whenever they re-use older gear, there seems to be no pattern or logic behind the role swaps. The "muh immersion" argument goes out the window yet again.