Ban Dragoon and DRK from Frontline or At least Nerf Drg's LB

[Dionysius]

Disclaimer before more people coming and tell me "use Guard" and stop crying.



I have 1832 FL runs in a span of 7 years, I know there are other people with much higher count, I just put it out here so people won't think I don't know what I'm talking about.

I don't have to be a genius to be able to tell something is wrong with the balance, when 24 can easily win 48 simply by brute force their way.
The whole point of FL is 1v1v1 not 1v2.

Pre 6.x FL is more fun than the one we have now, but I know they're gone forever. At the very least I want to try enjoy the one we have now.

But since 6.x FL begins, there are holes everywhere that Sqex are too lazy to fix until 7 months later (yeah you PLD, but now I think about it dealing with PLD are more fun than the shit we have now).

I'm still having fun with the mode, for now, but with the new Series, more people coming back to FL and the exploit become more blatantly often, why not just fix it if a lot of people are enjoying your contents.
That's the reason of this post.

[Nanne]

I still don't get how premades doing team work and timing things together is exploiting? Do they all have to time their LB's 1 at a time so people have time to heal in between?

[Naizakane]

I still don't get how premades doing team work and timing things together is exploiting? Do they all have to time their LB's 1 at a time so people have time to heal in between?

yes, and if op asks nicely they also have to stop attacking so op has time to use the elixir

[Dionysius]

I still don't get how premades doing team work and timing things together is exploiting? Do they all have to time their LB's 1 at a time so people have time to heal in between?

Why do you think they nerfed SMN and WHM with -10% dmg overall? Why do you think they had to make adjustment across all jobs? The balance is off, it's simple as that.
What's wrong with balancing jobs in PVP?

[Dionysius]

yes, and if op asks nicely they also have to stop attacking so op has time to use the elixir

Fuck off if you're here just to mocking people. People like you are disgusting.
/mute

[Nikoto]

Why do you think they nerfed SMN and WHM with -10% dmg overall? Why do you think they had to make adjustment across all jobs? The balance is off, it's simple as that.
What's wrong with balancing jobs in PVP?

Because they were absolutely busted without needing coordination, I imagine. You're asking for legitimate strategy to be banned.

I don't think anyone here thinks Frontline is balanced, but this isn't the problem with it.

[Kathleen_]

If you don't remember any DRK in your FLs then this is not an issue in your region, but this is definitely a big issue in my Data Centre where 2-3 DRKs + 5-6 DRGs can dominate against 48 players from both GC.

Bro I guarantee you, if the west had the culture of following the leader and their burst macros the same people shitting on you right now would actually agree with you. lmao

[Ransu]

Holyshit not even one person here commenting know what're talking about or even do FL themselves and yet show up for sarcasm, troll, or whatever.
Asking for balance in a PVP is comical? lmao

Stating a fact isn't sarcasm. Its literally impossible to balance a mode with that many players.

The pvp is balanced around CC. Trying to balance FL is a waste of time.

[BubblyBoar]

FL isn't balanced and will never be balanced. DRK+DRG combo can be countered and countering it can be countered. It's hard to deal with, but people WILL do it because they enjoy beating others that way. It was the same back when the 24 man premades were running around.



For those saying "just guard" I just laugh. There's like 3 different jobs that can rip you out of guard to make sure you take all that damage.


Is this combo an exploit? No. Is it fair? Kind of? Like I said, it can be countered and played around. Even teams rolling with BH can be beat. I've done it plenty of times without needing a premade party to do it. It's all able leading your alliance and understanding how the combo works. it is far from flawless and unbeatable.



Sure SE do something about it? It really depends on how it is fixed. Melees are a little too chunky right now. Especially jobs like DRG and NIN. MNK and RPR should keep what they have and SAM is iffy and mostly a noob killer. SE could do something if it becomes a big enough problem.


For now, I suggest putting together a strategy to counter the combo. There are multiple that work well and don't require you to have a group of 4 to queue with. It really just depends on the job you play because some do it better than others. What's most important is that you alert your alliance and make sure they understand what the other is trying to do to them. But most people don't want to take that kind of leadership. They rather just keep dying and asking SE to change it on the forums.

[Duskane]

I see a DRK running towards me with the horde i just back away
unless I'm PLD then can easily bait the onslaught then gap close to a team mate safely