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  1. #2961
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joven View Post
    Or they're just building it up when really it's as deep as a puddle.
    Right ? So easy to step in, isn't it ? It always is.
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  2. #2962
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    Jasmine Clayworth
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teno View Post
    Right ? So easy to step in, isn't it ? It always is.
    So explain how deep it is instead of making vague statements.
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  3. #2963
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    I don't need it, but if there's enough people who want it, why not. It's a client-side cosmetic change.
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  4. #2964
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    Quote Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia View Post
    So now that we have female characters tanking in string bikini's and now men in wedding dresses, it's time to adopt an option a lot of other games have: Hide Glamour. Naturally troglodyte are going to assume it's because of the men in dresses. It's actually because it's breaks the theme and feel of it being a final fantasy game. Tanks should wear plate, healers should wear robes, and no one should be in a fight seriously wearing carbuncle slippers and lingerie.

    I don't propose a limit to glamour, I just want to be able to turn off other players glamours displaying on my client. That way they can "Express" themselves all they want, and I don't have to suffer another topless male in a thong.
    how about. no.
    you dont have the right to determine what other's wear. just like real life.
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  5. #2965
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    so then....does the same apply to the Glamour Toggle? is there no argument for it if people dont care for it / want it?
    But also, I dont think this is a good counter argument personally.
    My statement was not an argument. I have stated my argument many times in the thread, adding this feature would give players an extra tool to police and enhance their own game experience without having to request removal of certain things or simply avoid playing the game altogether.

    Though I 100% agree if the reason behind not wanting an optional feature that one does not have to use because they do not want it, or resources van be better used elsewhere yeah they are pretty lame. To someone somewhere something is a peice of content that is a waste of time. I think island sanctuary is dumb and they should have used that time on something else, even so I can still see the value for those that wanted or enjoy it. So I would never say they should do it because of x
    .I may feel that way but I just choose to not take part in the content.

    Then you have statements like this

    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    how about. no.
    you dont have the right to determine what other's wear. just like real life.
    No one is determining what you are wearing this feature would largely be like using ones imagination to alter the appearance of others. While not 1:1 I hope you get my point. Outside of super niche situations no one will know. You can still express yourself how you want. Only way it would deter you ia if you make the personal assumption that everyone was using the feature but then at that point I have to ask are you doing it for yourself or for others to see you?
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 01-19-2023 at 01:17 AM.

  6. #2966
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    how about. no.
    you dont have the right to determine what other's wear. just like real life.
    Exept nobody is determining what others wear. You can still wear whatever you want. Also, this is not real life, stop trying to compare the two. There are a lot of things you can do here that you can't do in real life so that argument is moot.
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  7. #2967
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    Quote Originally Posted by MaeveHatesHousing View Post
    how about. no.
    you dont have the right to determine what other's wear. just like real life.
    *walk into a store in the middle of the day wearing pasties and a thong*
    *people want to you to leave due to your lack of clothing*
    *gets escorted out due to lack of clothes by the store's employees*
    "Ugh, wtf. I thought we had rights!"
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  8. #2968
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    I'm surprised this isn't an option already. Just have it toggled off by default. I used to play on PS3 and when I'd load super slow into Limsa, you'd see people in armor that would quickly shift over to their glamour so I always wondered if the game loaded base armor then glamoured over it super quick to players during the black screen.
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  9. #2969
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    Xylira Mierqid
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    No thanks.

    The point of glamours isn't just so that you can change how you see your character, but you choose how your character looks to other players. Allowing others to disable glamours invalids a large portion of the point of the glamour system.

    As for immersion, FFXIV pulls it's aesthetics from all past FF games, which includes some silly as well as more modern looking clothing. Furthermore, if SE felt that something really didn't fit within the intended aesthetics of the setting, they wouldn't add it to the game in the first place. In other words, if you don't like other people's glamours so much that you want to turn them off, maybe FFXIV isn't the game for you.
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    Last edited by Xylira; 01-19-2023 at 02:36 AM.

  10. #2970
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xylira View Post
    No thanks.

    The point of glamours isn't just so that you can change how you see your character, but you choose how your character looks to other players. Allowing others to disable glamours invalids a large portion of the point of the glamour system.
    Except not everybody cares about how you choose to dress up your character unless, like the thread is about, it's distracting or obnoxious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xylira View Post
    As for immersion, FFXIV pulls it's aesthetics from all past FF games, which includes some silly as well as more modern looking clothing. Furthermore, if SE felt that something really didn't fit within the intended aesthetics of the setting, they wouldn't add it to the game in the first place. In other words, if you don't like other people's glamours so much that you want to turn them off, maybe FFXIV isn't the game for you.
    People play this game for different reasons. Glamour is just a small part of that. Many people don't care about EX, Savage or Ultimate content. Should they also not play the game? Telling people "this isn't the game for you" just because they don't care about a small segment of that game is egotistical.
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