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    What we're dealing with now is what post ARR is to everyone now. "The unbeatable slog that no one can wither the storm" Granted I think this is 100x better than post ARR. But thats the point, we ended a 10 year saga. Everything now is going to be set up for the next 10 year saga. If you dont like it right now, thats fine. But at the same time, I'm not entirely sure what people expected, especially with 6.3 given what the .3 patches have been like in the past full knowing EW concluded in full with 6.0. I could wager everything we have had from 6.1 until now will fit and make much more sense when the real stuff starts rolling, just like it did when we entered Heavensward. But thats just me.
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    Last edited by Plasma711; 01-18-2023 at 03:37 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasma711 View Post
    What we're dealing with now is what post ARR is to everyone now. "The unbeatable slog that no one can wither the storm" Granted I think this is 100x better than post ARR. But thats the point, we ended a 10 year saga. Everything now is going to be set up for the next 10 year saga. If you dont like it right now, thats fine. But at the same time, I'm not entirely sure what people expected, especially with 6.3 given what the .3 patches have been like in the past full knowing EW concluded in full with 6.0. I could wager everything we have had from 6.1 until now will fit and make much more sense when the real stuff starts rolling, just like it did when we entered Heavensward. But thats just me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plasma711 View Post
    What we're dealing with now is what post ARR is to everyone now. "The unbeatable slog that no one can wither the storm" Granted I think this is 100x better than post ARR. But thats the point, we ended a 10 year saga. Everything now is going to be set up for the next 10 year saga. If you dont like it right now, thats fine. But at the same time, I'm not entirely sure what people expected, especially with 6.3 given what the .3 patches have been like in the past full knowing EW concluded in full with 6.0. I could wager everything we have had from 6.1 until now will fit and make much more sense when the real stuff starts rolling, just like it did when we entered Heavensward. But thats just me.
    Although didn't they state that they want to do shorter story arcs that doesn't span multiple expansions?

    All in all, i hope they manage to re-establish an political undertone to the main plot again. Since that has been one of the games strongest points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Although didn't they state that they want to do shorter story arcs that doesn't span multiple expansions?

    All in all, i hope they manage to re-establish an political undertone to the main plot again. Since that has been one of the games strongest points.
    There still needs to be a bridging period though, that's the issue. We'll have more stories and adventures in the future, but we need to lay the ground for some stuff. Especially given how the Scions' new adventures are currently fragmented into different questlines.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Although didn't they state that they want to do shorter story arcs that doesn't span multiple expansions?

    All in all, i hope they manage to re-establish an political undertone to the main plot again. Since that has been one of the games strongest points.
    I think they mentioned both. They are un-sure if they want to do smaller stories like maybe each expansion being a one off, or maybe like 1 or 2 expansions being around the same thing. But I also why they wrote in Emet mentioning all these other places we've never been too, the other shards, etc. This team has done enough over the last 10 years that I can put my faith in them. And that doesnt mean they dont make mistakes or bad decisions, or other stuff in the game is perfect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrizzlyTank View Post
    Although didn't they state that they want to do shorter story arcs that doesn't span multiple expansions?

    All in all, i hope they manage to re-establish an political undertone to the main plot again. Since that has been one of the games strongest points.
    I think that given the marked inability to write subsequent character arcs for the main cast once their initial one is over, it's probably for the best for future expansions to focus on self-contained stories with rotating rosters of party members. One can only be made to sit through the same Alphinaud arc so many times or god forbid yet another Y'shtola fakeout. No doubt there are some people who would defend the latter if not both, but neither are conducive to effective storytelling.

    The best place to restart political undertones is Ilsabard without question, as the provinces will likely have something of interest going on there now that the empire has been gutted. A handful of kingdoms in close proximity to each other vying for resources and territory would make for a decent basis for that. I'd like to think that the addition of a Corvosi mount this patch lends credence to that theory with perhaps a focus on that specific region, but there's always a chance they'll hit us with more subverted expectations again.

    To think we would have gotten something along the lines of that if they hadn't cancelled the Garlemald expansion. It would have also helped if instead of running out the guest writers who already had a proven track record of being able to tell decent political stories, that they put aside the writers who went on to force their fanfiction and self-inserts in our faces like the Myths femroe. (Not to mention the infantilization of the goddesses - Nophica and Halone are apparently supposed to hate each other and yet both of them are holding hands espousing the "my children!!!" cringeworthy lines.)

    I don't care to see what sort of preaching they'd come out with if they tried doing politics in the New World or the version of Meracydia that some people in the community have cooked up in their heads. It would doubtless get real messy extremely quickly, though it would be amusing to see the gcbtw finally push back against the Alphinaufication of the world once he tries his usual nonsense in either of those two regions after having allowed him to bulldoze away anything unique about the cultures and political systems of the nations the Scions have rampaged through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    To think we would have gotten something along the lines of that if they hadn't cancelled the Garlemald expansion. It would have also helped if instead of running out the guest writers who already had a proven track record of being able to tell decent political stories, that they put aside the writers who went on to force their fanfiction and self-inserts in our faces like the Myths femroe. (Not to mention the infantilization of the goddesses - Nophica and Halone are apparently supposed to hate each other and yet both of them are holding hands espousing the "my children!!!" cringeworthy lines.)
    Is the beautiful posting.

    Official writer who writing the story are call the fanfic writer and the Ayyybeyond is call the self the official writer. Is the genius. Why guild not do this before Lmao. Hating the sister is sign of the mature writing of 12 god. Yes. Is what mature 4 year old is do to sister. Should calling the names and throwing the rocks. Nofica - Moooooom the Halone it is the punch us and taking our spear Venar - OK now is give back OK. Wise beyond the ears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeham View Post
    Is the beautiful posting.

    Official writer who writing the story are call the fanfic writer and the Ayyybeyond is call the self the official writer. Is the genius. Why guild not do this before Lmao. Hating the sister is sign of the mature writing of 12 god. Yes. Is what mature 4 year old is do to sister. Should calling the names and throwing the rocks. Nofica - Moooooom the Halone it is the punch us and taking our spear Venar - OK now is give back OK. Wise beyond the ears.
    My Ears are Wise
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