Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Avatre]

So kind of on topic but slightly adjacent: What level of patience is appropriate for people who are really slow (no, think slower) at learning mechanics in content like 24 players raids (as opposed to what the game categorizes as high-end content)? If they aren't new but still die a lot, when is it too much? Does a message offered at the start that they are still learning make a difference? I've been seeing different opinions lately with the new raids about tolerance levels for people who die a lot and assumptions about whether people are really trying (but bad) or are just trying to coast along with little effort or attention. How would you tell the difference? Does it matter?

I will personally raise anyone, pretty much no matter what, unless they are dying instantly and not even attempting to do mechanics(like standing perfectly still inside AoEs non-stop). I will always adjust my priority around to who I raise first, with tanks/healers/SMN/RDM being #1 100% of the time since they are usually able to assist with raises/keep enemies occupied while I get others up. However, there are times where I will decide my MP is better used to finish the fight than to raise people(we're talking the boss is about to die, and having the person respawn rather than come back with a debuff due to raising)

[Renalt]

I've seen that movie :O way back in the day! Holy Camoly

They did a mini series called JourneyQuest. It's surprisingly good and the writing and everything increases exponentially between seasons. It just sucks they stopped right when it was getting REALLY good. I think you can find it on youtube...let me check...

Yup. Season 1 right here.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...yTCxv24Zw0tQgK

[RobynDaBank]

Boyfriend was watching me play today so I got the itch to entertain him.

1. Smileton where I had the stupid idea to jump in as SCH. I have barely played it past level 80, so it took some remembering to figure out how to heal. We wiped at the start, mentor tank offered to go slowly, I accepted and apologized. Eventually though I got used to it somewhat and asked that they do the final pulls as big as they can.

2. Frontline. Actually landed in a winning team! It's so relaxing to play a DD and just do damage instead of throwing myself in as a Healer and getting focused.

[SlouchyBard]

They did a mini series called JourneyQuest. It's surprisingly good and the writing and everything increases exponentially between seasons. It just sucks they stopped right when it was getting REALLY good. I think you can find it on youtube...let me check...

Yup. Season 1 right here.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...yTCxv24Zw0tQgK

I'll add it to the queue and watch Zardoz as an appetizer. If you like cheesy things to watch, let me know.

A while back, I was in an Endwalker Trial and thought for sure we were gonna wipe. It was one of those mechanics were you gotta stack and the group gets hit a few times. Who knew that Paladin's cover and Hallowed Ground could keep me alive long enough to do LB3. They pretty much died but their sacrifice went to saving the party from a wipe.

[NanaWiloh]

They did a mini series called JourneyQuest. It's surprisingly good and the writing and everything increases exponentially between seasons. It just sucks they stopped right when it was getting REALLY good. I think you can find it on youtube...let me check...

Yup. Season 1 right here.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...yTCxv24Zw0tQgK

Don't know why but I read that as Johnny quest lol

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

What level of patience is appropriate for people who are really slow (no, think slower) at learning mechanics in content like 24 players raids (as opposed to what the game categorizes as high-end content)? If they aren't new but still die a lot, when is it too much?

I'm gonna assume you're not talking about EX+ here.

The kind of patience that lets me cover stupids as much as I can while still pushing the entire group to a clear. I don't think there's any 'appropriate' degree of that. I think this is something that ultimately each of us decide how much we want to deal with.

Does a message offered at the start that they are still learning make a difference? I've been seeing different opinions lately with the new raids about tolerance levels for people who die a lot and assumptions about whether people are really trying (but bad) or are just trying to coast along with little effort or attention. How would you tell the difference?

The thing is, I don't. People may or may not learn something new at any given moment. They could be genuine, or they could be saying it to fish for sympathy. Either way I won't know for sure. Do it, and prove it; then I'll decide after if I want to comply or use the door.

Does it matter?

If the duty clears, I don't think it really matters.

My expectation is so dirt-low that people literally have to be an ar$e and/or demand more out of me than what they deserve to get any sort of response.

The only personal exception to this sort of case is when dealing with single pulling tank in post StB and above-dungeon, as a healer. This is one pet peeve that I cannot guarantee I'll always deal with when they have 55 levels worth of experience of doing same thing over and over prior to reaching that point

[Hayden]

Sometimes you have a raid run that makes you feel top of the world.

You land every combo, you dodge every mechanic...you throw in a few good one liners and even get your drop.


Then we have days like today....

Dieing to simple mechanics, repeat messing up your rotation, and nothing drops for you.


Win some, lose some.

Shout out to the poor healer who dragged my sorry ass through new 24man today.

Not my best run

*slow walk of shame*

[XianRo]

got complimented on my dirndl hat glam in a roulette today and that was really nice.
Hrothgar only have 3 hats that arent totally garbage (dirndl now, varsity flatcap, and yorha55 tank/maiming hat) so getting that compliment on my glam really made my day.

[Soge01]

got complimented on my dirndl hat glam in a roulette today and that was really nice.
Hrothgar only have 3 hats that arent totally garbage (dirndl now, varsity flatcap, and yorha55 tank/maiming hat) so getting that compliment on my glam really made my day.

You look like you have a meat bun on your head. I want a steamy meat bun hat now for my Hrothgar alt. ;^;

[Jettinson]

In Frontline today was... kinda wild, Seal Rock. Our team got bullied by both teams, it didn't help we started North.

We tried to fight near our base since there was a node but got flanked, we retreated, pushed back and resume to get a node. Once again we got flanked and we had almost no point vs the others already at 200-300+

We got to a point we were just fed up and ended up on a killing spree to the point we managed to get a full comeback and win, my team all max battle high. It was... satisfying.