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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyxs View Post
    I think making everything unisex has become a eyesore personally. It looks terrible.
    Yeah, really it seems only 2 types of players want degendered gear
    1 - people who play female characters who want the male glams in addition to the female glams
    2 - trolls who want to be the funny Hrothgar in a fundoshi or a dress running around in duties

    Most female gear looks atrocious on male characters and square doesn't put in the effort to change that at all. All degendering gear does is give female ARR race characters more glam options, which they already have pretty much everything under the sun. What irks me the most about it is they charge you 10 dollars if at some point after character creation you realize you're playing a race or gender that the devs don't care about adding new glams or gear for.
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    Yeah, I'd be okay with women wearing everything men can because not all women want to wear skirts/dresses and sometimes wear pants/long sleeves. However I think that if a woman outfit is strictly designed with breasts and what not, it should stay on women.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caddo View Post
    Yeah, I'd be okay with women wearing everything men can because not all women want to wear skirts/dresses and sometimes wear pants/long sleeves. However I think that if a woman outfit is strictly designed with breasts and what not, it should stay on women.
    What? No, that's the exact opposite of what I was saying. I want more male exclusive glams since there's plenty of female exclusive glams and it's nice to have something special for races that aren't catgirls. There's really nothing being given in return that I or people who play male characters want when these items get de-gendered.
    Oh cool this suit is available on female characters cool, I get... a dress I will never wear in return. Great trade. If I don't like it? Square says to give them 10 dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Yeah, really it seems only 2 types of players want degendered gear
    1 - people who play female characters who want the male glams in addition to the female glams
    2 - trolls who want to be the funny Hrothgar in a fundoshi or a dress running around in duties
    I don't think that it's that black an white. A lot of female sets have 1-2 pieces that look fine on male chars. It's just bad that you must pay the whole set, if you just need 1 piece.
    For example the Eastern Socialite's Attire. The Eastern Socialite's 'Skirt' looks fine as a glam for swimwear. The whole rest of the set looks really bad on males. (imo)
    The Eastern Lady Errant's Attire would work too but is still looked.

    But I agree that a lot of the female stuff does not look good on males, but not everything looks bad.
    And in the end its just a game. If someone wants to wear his maid dress, and has fun with it, I don't care, to be honest. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    I don't think that it's that black an white. A lot of female sets have 1-2 pieces that look fine on male chars. It's just bad that you must pay the whole set, if you just need 1 piece.
    For example the Eastern Socialite's Attire. The Eastern Socialite's 'Skirt' looks fine as a glam for swimwear. The whole rest of the set looks really bad on males. (imo)
    The Eastern Lady Errant's Attire would work too but is still looked.

    But I agree that a lot of the female stuff does not look good on males, but not everything looks bad.
    And in the end its just a game. If someone wants to wear his maid dress, and has fun with it, I don't care, to be honest. :3
    I would be okay with all of this if we had an option to turn off other player's glamours. GW2 had a slick idea, I wish XIV would take a page from ArenaNet.
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    I don't get why people care so much about the glam of other players. If I don't like it, then I just stop looking on it.
    The only important thing is the own glamour. In my opinion. :3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    I don't get why people care so much about the glam of other players. If I don't like it, then I just stop looking on it.
    I don't get why people care so much about restricting player options in a video game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    I don't get why people care so much about restricting player options in a video game.
    Games are there for fun, right?. :3
    When you then realize, that you have much less nice glam options and less glam options in general than other players, just because of the gender and the race you choose, than that limits the fun.
    It's just unfair. That's why people care. And it is a problem on the developer's side.

    But to complain about the glam of other players is really unnecessary in my opinion. It does not limit your own glamour experience and options. : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    Games are there for fun, right?. :3
    When you then realize, that you have much less glam options than other players, just because of the gender and the race you choose, than that limits the fun.
    It's just unfair. That's why people care. And it is a problem on the developer's side.

    But to complain about the glam of other players is really unnecessary in my opinion. It does not limit your own glamour experience and options. : )
    I guess your fun is the "correct" way to have fun. Glad we don't have to worry about pesky things like a middle ground. : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Yeah, really it seems only 2 types of players want degendered gear
    1 - people who play female characters who want the male glams in addition to the female glams
    2 - trolls who want to be the funny Hrothgar in a fundoshi or a dress running around in duties

    Most female gear looks atrocious on male characters and square doesn't put in the effort to change that at all. All degendering gear does is give female ARR race characters more glam options, which they already have pretty much everything under the sun. What irks me the most about it is they charge you 10 dollars if at some point after character creation you realize you're playing a race or gender that the devs don't care about adding new glams or gear for.
    Third type of people who want degendered gear: people who genuinely want to dress their male characters in feminine outfits, not to troll but because they like the style.

    Fourth type of people (hi): people who don't want to dress their male characters in overtly feminine outfits but still want to make use of certain female-locked gear pieces.

    Also, one of my characters is a male Viera quite similar to yours, and there is still loads of gear that looks good on him. It's just not the gear that you're expected to pay $20 to acquire.
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