Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

[Asari5]

you can ignore the clams though. they ignore you as well if you dont attack them

[Tiramu]

you can ignore the clams though. they ignore you as well if you dont attack them

I was under the impression you need to kill the clams because of spawns. None the less, whether you can or not, that wasn't really the issue, the issue was the tank trying and failing to wall to wall with a newbie healer and then lambasting them, and calling people retards.

[Avatre]

I was under the impression you need to kill the clams because of spawns. None the less, whether you can or not, that wasn't really the issue, the issue was the tank trying and failing to wall to wall with a newbie healer and then lambasting them, and calling people retards.

Killing them does stop the spawning, but if the party had been able to get through without killing them then it wouldn't have been a problem. From what you said though, that tank should have realized the healer was struggling, left their ego at the door(or left the instance), and slowed down a bit.

[Raoabolic]

We continue, and they continue to heal with medica, most of which weren't reaching the tank and I decide to check them. Level 80 WHM.

I don't understand.

It's called a level/story skip potion, lol.

[Renalt]

I was under the impression you need to kill the clams because of spawns. None the less, whether you can or not, that wasn't really the issue, the issue was the tank trying and failing to wall to wall with a newbie healer and then lambasting them, and calling people retards.

You can actually just ignore the clams and just bring the firefly thingies into the boss room and just AoE it all down but here's the thing...the rest of the party wasn't comfortable with it and it failed twice. That's just a bad mentor.

A good mentor factors the comfort and abilities of those around them and adjust accordingly. A good mentor explains what can and can't be done and WHY it can...and then does what everyone is comfortable with. A good mentor asks "Hey i'm going to do this. Try your best to keep up and if it fails we can just do it the normal way" so when it DOES succeed...the others know it's possible by EXAMPLE.

[tinythinker]

So kind of on topic but slightly adjacent: What level of patience is appropriate for people who are really slow (no, think slower) at learning mechanics in content like 24 players raids (as opposed to what the game categorizes as high-end content)? If they aren't new but still die a lot, when is it too much? Does a message offered at the start that they are still learning make a difference? I've been seeing different opinions lately with the new raids about tolerance levels for people who die a lot and assumptions about whether people are really trying (but bad) or are just trying to coast along with little effort or attention. How would you tell the difference? Does it matter?

[ASkellington]

So kind of on topic but slightly adjacent: What level of patience is appropriate for people who are really slow (no, think slower) at learning mechanics in content like 24 players raids (as opposed to what the game categorizes as high-end content)? If they aren't new but still die a lot, when is it too much? Does a message offered at the start that they are still learning make a difference? I've been seeing different opinions lately with the new raids about tolerance levels for people who die a lot and assumptions about whether people are really trying (but bad) or are just trying to coast along with little effort or attention. How would you tell the difference? Does it matter?

If we're talking strictly 24mains and below (so no EX or Savage learning) my rule of thumb is - if I can spare the mana to rez you on repeat, you'll get rezzed. If its going to be a waste of my mana (aka 5+ rezzes a fight) and other people are also dying you drop in priority.

[Renalt]

I don't do any savages so pretty much everything is casual to me. That said as long as it's casual...yeah I'll raise them every single time. It'll make for a funny story and a good show to watch someone get put down 10 times. If you ever watched Dorkness Rising ( Full movie is on youtube here https://youtu.be/tOUksDJCijw ) it's like watching the Bard die over and over.

[SlouchyBard]

I don't do any savages so pretty much everything is casual to me. That said as long as it's casual...yeah I'll raise them every single time. It'll make for a funny story and a good show to watch someone get put down 10 times. If you ever watched Dorkness Rising ( Full movie is on youtube here https://youtu.be/tOUksDJCijw ) it's like watching the Bard die over and over.

I've seen that movie :O way back in the day! Holy Camoly

[Skivvy]

If we're talking strictly 24mains and below (so no EX or Savage learning) my rule of thumb is - if I can spare the mana to rez you on repeat, you'll get rezzed. If its going to be a waste of my mana (aka 5+ rezzes a fight) and other people are also dying you drop in priority.

I don't do any savages so pretty much everything is casual to me. That said as long as it's casual...yeah I'll raise them every single time. It'll make for a funny story and a good show to watch someone get put down 10 times. If you ever watched Dorkness Rising ( Full movie is on youtube here https://youtu.be/tOUksDJCijw ) it's like watching the Bard die over and over.

My people! As long as the rest of the party isn't also going down in flames, I'll toss a person raises as they need them. Obviously that doesn't fly in EX/savage as you mentioned, but I don't touch that. :P