Best part of a new patch? Third party tools not working.

[Hanaya]

I think that's a totally different issue. I have friends who do savages regularly, and they will often die if they get the *normal* version of the raid they're progging in roulette because they keep expecting the savage mechanics.

this is genuinely so true. I don't use 3rd party tools (like cactbot or w/e) and I cleared the last savage tier. and then I got p7n in my raid roulette and died like 4 times because I couldn't remember any of the normal mechs lmao. I've seen static members rack up like 6 vuln stacks in raids we cleared the savage versions of because we spend so much time in savage we forget how to play the game outside of it lol.

also I'm genuinely convinced that equipping an ultimate title makes you play worse. I have to keep taking mine off mid duty because it's embarrassing messing up easy mechs while flexing your ultimate clear

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

[…]also I'm genuinely convinced that equipping an ultimate title makes you play worse. I have to keep taking mine off mid duty because it's embarrassing messing up easy mechs while flexing your ultimate clear

In a perfect world, people would recognize what those title meant: the player have cleared & very likely to be great at that specific duty. Yes, there are cloned mechanics, yes there are recycled mechanics. But there’s only so much a person can remember when there are hundreds of duties in the entire game. Considering the general time investment required to get a clear from high ends, I wouldn’t be surprised if suddenly being shoved to random, lower lv duties will bamboozle them.

Messing up gameplay fundamentals (i.e. ABC) consistently is however a different story.

[Packetdancer]

this is genuinely so true. I don't use 3rd party tools (like cactbot or w/e) and I cleared the last savage tier. and then I got p7n in my raid roulette and died like 4 times because I couldn't remember any of the normal mechs lmao. I've seen static members rack up like 6 vuln stacks in raids we cleared the savage versions of because we spend so much time in savage we forget how to play the game outside of it lol.

To be fair, there's really only a few normal duties that will trip you up enough to kill you if you're used to savage/extreme versions; most might leave you confused, but usually reacting to something that doesn't happen at all instead of stepping into something deadly. Having gotten P8N for the first time in ages last night, I kept trying to prep for knockback or "get out of the hitbox" whenever he started the snakes or centaur/dog/hippo/whatever portions, and then feeling like a doofus for reacting to something that didn't even happen.

But the ones that do have a mechanic different enough to kill you in normal, they are doozies. The "wait, the horses happen during what?" during Thunderstorm in E5N, the knockback in Emerald normal that doesn't happen in Emerald EX, etc.