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  1. #11
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    RajNish's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Asha Dakwhil
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    Scholar Lv 90
    I'm still just getting used to this map and it's confusing a lot. It was supposed to be fun, but it really is just too much. However, the visual design is really beautiful.
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  2. #12
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    maximesan514's Avatar
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    Ice Truck
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 90

    simple.. PVE players

    They are trying to catter to the PVE players..you know the one that say " its just pvp " yeah those, the one who dont care whatsoever about pvp, yep
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  3. #13
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    I agree that the map is extremely overwhelming for first timers (it wrecked me until I got used to it, which honestly doesn't require that many games), and that there is too many gimmicks crammed into one map. I do think they could have gotten rid of the two clockwork mammets that bring very little to the map overall. The doors, mats and coins are already a good package to have fun with.

    The layout is top tier, I really like it because it offers possibilities for both ranged and melee to shine (where C9 had too little for melee and ranged to dodge fire, and Volcano too much for casters to have a good time). Unlike Palaistra the layout also offers more ways to sneak around and overall turn everything upside down, which can be fun.

    I do however think that the front hidden door trick is proving problematic because for some reason everybody rushes through that one in particular, which is literally a mega death trap for the opener of the games there. The place where you end up is literally the worst place you'd want to be when a game starts. And I'm not even speaking of games where some players decide to go through the side door, the rest through the front door, and you're left with a recipe for disaster. Maybe it's not the fault of the map design per se, and more of a player issue, but I do believe that if players keep doing something bad it has at least to be because the design is enticing them to take the wrong choices.
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  4. #14
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    CidHeiral's Avatar
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    Cid Heiral
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    Hyperion
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    The new map is awesome. Tons of opportunities for really fun plays using the mats/robots/doors. I hope more maps are like this in the future.

    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    I do however think that the front hidden door trick is proving problematic because for some reason everybody rushes through that one in particular, which is literally a mega death trap for the opener of the games there. The place where you end up is literally the worst place you'd want to be when a game starts. And I'm not even speaking of games where some players decide to go through the side door, the rest through the front door, and you're left with a recipe for disaster.
    This has been my only point of frustration with the map thus far, and it's entirely a player issue. Everyone wants to rush through that door then stand around staring at the walls until they get flanked and die. For anyone who does this, please stop.
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  5. #15
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    Myon88's Avatar
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Viper Lv 100
    Yeah the front hidden door is a really bad choice at the start of the game. Not only do you spawn in a corner with your camera jammed against the wall, from that position you can be flanked from the left by enemies taking the side door to their checkpoint, and from the right by enemies approaching from the crystal. You're funneling yourself into a deathtrap.

    Unless you're going for some fancy play or a ninja trying to sneak around to the backline, the side door that goes to your checkpoint is a much better option. It puts you a safe position that can't be easily flanked, and you're the one that gets to gank any opposing players who were foolish enough to use their forward door. It even conveniently lights up the wall to inform you of incoming victims.

    That said overall I'm pleased with the design of this map too.
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  6. #16
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    Jybril's Avatar
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    Junpei Iorii
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Araxes View Post
    The new map is a environment battle, not a pvp match.
    And this should be removed from rank. It's trash for one. You can barely see where to go because
    the camera is horrendous and there is just WAY too many things going on at once and I agree
    that the mini lasts way too long. Leave it in norms but keep this crap out of rank until or unless they fix it significantly.

    Edit: I can't say much of anything from the design as I can barely see where I'm going with all the crap going and the horrible camera
    but from the quick outlook intro that I saw when entering, not bad.
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    Last edited by Jybril; 01-14-2023 at 02:27 PM.

  7. #17
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    RajNish's Avatar
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    Asha Dakwhil
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    I can't say much of anything from the design as I can barely see where I'm going with all the crap going and the horrible camera
    Lying on this beautiful floor, you can look at the wonderful decor. But joking aside, I feel your pain. I died there several times because I couldn't figure out where I was and which way to go. And while I was looking at the mini-map, someone was sure to jump on me. There is a lot to calculate on this map and it overloads. Because of this, in my rating, this is the worst map of all possible at the moment. Among other things, I don’t like that at any moment you can actually be squeezed into a corner or be in the enemy’s crowd and simply crushed.
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