Stricter requirements for Mentors.

[DixieBellOCE]

Frankly I prefer this sort of 'specialized' mentor roles. Imo the currently present system is just way too broad.



The potential issue with negative comms is how do you prevent this?

Honestly don't think it would be much of an issue.

The worst you can get is a group of 7 people bombing you at once.

7 negatives out of 100 isn't going to demote you.

Players that are actively helping would get more positive than negative votes over time, and if a single negative vote is going to upset a mentor, then they most likely don't have the patience to use the system to begin with

The other option is quite simple, Dont have negative commendations and have 'has left instances before completion x times as a 'insert role' mentor' as the demotion point.
This way the mentors that actively dodge in mentor roulette would be punished and the others would be rewarded.

Actually like the idea of 'you have left 5 instances before completion in mentor roulette this week, you have been demoted and your mentor status revoked'

[LianaThorne]

Honestly don't think it would be much of an issue.

The worst you can get is a group of 7 people bombing you at once.

7 negatives out of 100 isn't going to demote you.

Players that are actively helping would get more positive than negative votes over time, and if a single negative vote is going to upset a mentor, then they most likely don't have the patience to use the system to begin with

The other option is quite simple, Dont have negative commendations and have 'has left instances before completion x times as a 'insert role' mentor' as the demotion point.
This way the mentors that actively dodge in mentor roulette would be punished and the others would be rewarded.

Actually like the idea of 'you have left 5 instances before completion in mentor roulette this week, you have been demoted and your mentor status revoked'

Personally I'm for the latter as the demotion point, however it will need to be able to distinguish when one is intentionally leaving and internet/game related crashes that leave one unable to log back in (usually leading to removal from the party). Depending on how you look at it, both could be considered leaving an instance before completion and it's not necessarily fair to punish legit issues with a penalty.

[Saraide]

Personally I'm for the latter as the demotion point, however it will need to be able to distinguish when one is intentionally leaving and internet/game related crashes that leave one unable to log back in (usually leading to removal from the party). Depending on how you look at it, both could be considered leaving an instance before completion and it's not necessarily fair to punish legit issues with a penalty.

Stuff like this has to be reviewed on a case by case basis pretty much. One instance isnt enough but by the pattern forming if it happens multiple times you can usually make strong cases either way.

[Deceptus]

Personally I'm for the latter as the demotion point, however it will need to be able to distinguish when one is intentionally leaving and internet/game related crashes that leave one unable to log back in (usually leading to removal from the party). Depending on how you look at it, both could be considered leaving an instance before completion and it's not necessarily fair to punish legit issues with a penalty.

Seriously if Dixie's idea was implemented all a mentor would have to do to circumvent the system is Alt-F4

[Saraide]

Seriously if Dixie's idea was implemented all a mentor would have to do to circumvent the system is Alt-F4

From the prohibited activities:

Intentional leaving or disconnection
Refers to the act of obstructing another person's gameplay by intentionally leaving the game or disconnecting from the server.
Key Points
Since the game relies on internet connectivity, it is inevitable that there will be network disconnections or real-life circumstances which prevent you from playing the game. As such, simply disconnecting or remaining inactive in the game will not result in a penalty.

However, if a report is filed, a penalty will be issued if the following types of situations are confirmed to be occurring repeatedly:

Occurs right after entering a duty
Occurs when progress is not going well in a duty
Occurs when the team is about to be defeated in PvP
Even if there was no intention to interfere with others, repeated occurrences can be a nuisance to others. If you are experiencing network instability, or if you are frequently unable to play due to real-world circumstances, be considerate of others by refraining from participating in the duty/content, taking into account that you may unintentionally cause issues for others.

Please note that Square Enix may conduct investigations and issue a penalty in its discretion even if a report has not been filed if the act was confirmed publicly through online video, streaming services, or other means.

[VerdeLuck]

Personally I'm for the latter as the demotion point, however it will need to be able to distinguish when one is intentionally leaving and internet/game related crashes that leave one unable to log back in (usually leading to removal from the party). Depending on how you look at it, both could be considered leaving an instance before completion and it's not necessarily fair to punish legit issues with a penalty.

You punish all disconnects the same with a scaling penalty, like other games do. Regardless of whatever the person abandoning may say, even if it's totally legit and never happened before, it still screws over everyone else in the group when 1 person abandons and they have to get a fill.
"Legit" reasons can be faked as well from purposely causing packet loss, pulling the plug on your router, Alt-F4ing the game. You can't catch all the tricks so you just give a slap on the wrist for the first few offenses and then trust that the people with a high number of issues just won't queue up for that.
If you have severe internet issues, you shouldn't be doing content that relies on you to be there for other people then. Mentor queue dumps you into content that is underpopulated on purpose so getting a fill is a huge pain in the ass if one of them disconnects.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

We don't need conditions or rewards just give people the option to sign up for mentor like in 11 and get an M symbol. Also create a world chat instead of NN and then anybody can answer anyone's questions.

[Raven2014]

Here is a quick, simple yet effective way to fix mentor:

remove the crown icon. That's it.

[hagare]

We don't need conditions or rewards just give people the option to sign up for mentor like in 11 and get an M symbol. Also create a world chat instead of NN and then anybody can answer anyone's questions.

you actually think world chat would be better than NN.
Oh my sweet summer child

[Ivtrix]

Actually, after further consideration, I believe that clearing ultimate should be a requirement for the crafting mentor as well.