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  1. #11
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    Carin-Eri's Avatar
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    Carin Eri
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    Phoenix
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Have played it about four times now (partly because I want the 'Dedicated to Moonlight' Orchestrion roll!) and have been fortunate enough to not have experienced a wipe thus far, but certainly enough 'deaths' in each instance I've played to suggest plenty of players don't find it easy. And that includes me.
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    Last edited by Carin-Eri; 01-12-2023 at 10:30 PM.

  2. #12
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    Hik3n's Avatar
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    Esdeath Hankokku
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    Phoenix
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    Bard Lv 90
    This was way easier than the previous one, and if you did Bozja you will do this without any problems at all... The first boss for example needs more HP, i was in multiple times, but it just dies too fast, and if you get a good party, it's like not even there. I don't do savage and extreme, and I think it's easy, there are things in it that will give you a bit of a challenge for the first couple of times even if you don't play that good, but that is, or i just play too much Bozja and i think it's easy, but looking at the partys i was in so far, it went down way to fast to be the case.
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  3. #13
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    Corbeau's Avatar
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    Cam Ember
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    Ultros
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Yeah, it felt too easy for sure.

    It's not the worst thing - alliance raids aren't ever particularly hard - but I would have liked to see more of the mechanics. I feel like a lot of the bosses just flew by without understanding them.
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    Last edited by Corbeau; 01-13-2023 at 05:19 AM.

  4. #14
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    animeking's Avatar
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    San D'oria/ Gridania
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    Anime King
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    Goblin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    It was easy because nothing in this raid is new. Everything they did was already shown in previous dungeons/trials.
    I had a hard time at first, my alliance died a couple times each boss but after the first day all the random groups I'm going with now go through with very little issues.
    It's not like it was in ARR or HW 24-man raids where you have completely new mechanics you have to learn and the bosses have a lot of health compared to the damage we were putting out.
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  5. #15
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    Rellse's Avatar
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    Ro Woo
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    Sargatanas
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Same. The visual and music are really good, but feel like the hp is tuning low and mechanic is too simple.
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  6. #16
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    Sarah Montcroix
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    Siren
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    Rogue Lv 100
    Alliance raids just feel like 24-man dungeons nowadays. Undertuned and lacking the lively chaos that such a large raid should have.
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  8. #17
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Have played it about four times now (partly because I want the 'Dedicated to Moonlight' Orchestrion roll!) and have been fortunate enough to not have experienced a wipe thus far, but certainly enough 'deaths' in each instance I've played to suggest plenty of players don't find it easy. And that includes me.
    The fact you haven't wiped despite "enough deaths" begs to differ. That means despite failing mechanics enough to kill people, the bosses still can't actually "win" and are little more than flashy animations.

    I really dislike how afraid they are of wiping people in casual content. It isn't a big deal, especially not when the content if fresh. Weeping City and Dun Scaith are still beloved for a reason. Even Orbonne is liked despite its notoriety. The EXP of getting it back before the nerfs simply wasn't worthwhile. Don't get me wrong, I like the Twelve series but they just completely fall over. By 6.4, we're going to overpower Aglaia so much, it'll be laughable.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


  9. #18
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Ursa Nightrain
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    Mateus
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stepjam View Post
    It's pretty fun, has some clever mechanics. But the bosses all have the durability of tissue paper. On my first run, the first boss died before we even had gained 2 bars of limit break gauge. I was so surprised I expected her to get up for a second round, but no that was it. Second boss only got to LB2, and then the final two bosses we got LB3, but they were about to die by the time we did. Final boss was at like 5% health.

    I'm not convinced I even saw every attack from how fast they died, particularly the first boss. And this was day 1, it's only going to get faster and faster to kill from here. Please buff the bosses' health.
    This is because you're playing with the good/experienced players right now. Usually vets get their story done early and jump on the new content so they can start grinding those coins/tokens. Give it a few months, after most of the vets have their main gearsets augmented and start doing other things, and run with the undergeared/underdeveloped/inexperienced people that start trickling in by that point. I myself haven't done the raid yet, but if the bosses have low HP/Def that means the skin of the teeth runs that will inevitably happen later on will be more teeth and less skin.
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  10. #19
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    Besame's Avatar
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Good I only force myself to do them 1x anyway so let them be easier tyvm.
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  11. #20
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    Llynethil's Avatar
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    Llynethil Kindle
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    Balmung
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    Botanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ursa_Vonfiebryd View Post
    This is because you're playing with the good/experienced players right now. Usually vets get their story done early and jump on the new content so they can start grinding those coins/tokens. Give it a few months, after most of the vets have their main gearsets augmented and start doing other things, and run with the undergeared/underdeveloped/inexperienced people that start trickling in by that point. I myself haven't done the raid yet, but if the bosses have low HP/Def that means the skin of the teeth runs that will inevitably happen later on will be more teeth and less skin.
    Not really, even without the veteran raiders, raids get progressively easier and easier as weeks go by because people in general get better gear and more accustomed to what happens during fights.

    Happened last raid, happened with the pandaemonium raids, happened with the eden and nier ones too.
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