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  1. #201
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    6.3 and 'jewel'
    The jewel of Golbez's possession that Rubicante spoke of could have been just metaphor for a personal philosophy or goal, but it felt too deliberate. I thought it was obvious set up for Golbez having a Crystal of Light from Hydaelyn same as Ardbert and Co and a similar 'Failed WoL' mirror foil, but it could easily be a Dark Crystal like we haven't seen since ARR or a shard of Sabik that he picked up on the Moon. Or perhaps he was the original patsy of Igheyorm, and it's just that variety of auracite.
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    A reminder to everyone: The Heart of Sabik is in Japanese called 'Black Auracite Sabik', so the question of 'what' it is actually has actually never been a mystery except to us, who at first weren't prepared for the flowery language.
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  3. #203
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    A reminder to everyone: The Heart of Sabik is in Japanese called 'Black Auracite Sabik', so the question of 'what' it is actually has actually never been a mystery except to us, who at first weren't prepared for the flowery language.
    Well that would definitely be a believable tool to kill them then.

    Ffs the localization team is a blight on this game.
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  4. #204
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    Reporting: A world-ending threat is happening with no ascian involvement in sight. Suspicious....
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  5. #205
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kranel_San View Post
    Reporting: A world-ending threat is happening with no ascian involvement in sight. Suspicious....
    See? We didn't need 'em after all!
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  6. #206
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    Adrian Gungnir
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    Having studied Greek extensively over the years, here is a list of names to apply in the future for the rest of the Ascians:

    Major Deities of the Greek Pantheon Not used in the story:

    Aphrodite (According to a post below - Aphrodite might be Venat)
    Apollo (Maybe Oschon is Apollo the Ancient)?
    Ares (I highly suspect Halone is Ares The Ancient, Non-Ascian)
    Demeter (I highly suspect Nophica is Demeter The Ancient, Non-Ascian)
    Dionysus
    Hera
    Hestia (Very unsure, but I think Azeyma is Hestia The Ancient, Non-Ascian)
    Persephone
    Poseidon (Thaliak or Llymlaen might be Poseidon the Ancient, unsure)
    Zeus (I highly suspect Rhalgr is Zeus The Ancient, Non-Ascian)

    List of Unused Primordial Names (Since Gaia was used in the story):

    Aether (The Magic Mechanic of FFXIV, so obviously can't be used)
    Ananke
    Chaos (Chaos was a boss in the Omega Raid Series, so cannot be used)
    Chronos (50/50 that Althyk is Chronos The Ancient, Non-Ascian)
    Erebus
    Eros (Eros was a boss in the Qitana Ravel, so cannot be used)
    Hemera
    Hydros
    Nyx
    Ouranos (Ouranos was a boss in The Copperbell Mines HARD, so cannot be used)
    Phanes
    Physis (Its a Aetherial Spell used by Sages, so cannot be used, well maybe)
    Pontus
    Tartarus
    Tekmor
    Thalassa
    The Nesoi
    The Ourea
    Thesis

    List of Unused Titan Names (since Themis was used in the story)

    Aegeaeon
    Anchiale
    Anytus
    Asia
    Asteria
    Astraeus
    Atlas (its a AST weapon, so cannot be used)
    Aura
    Clymene
    Coeus
    Crius
    Cronus (50/50 that Althyk is Cronus The Ancient, Non-Ascian)
    Dione
    Eos (This is a Fairy summoned by the SCH Job, so cannot be used)
    Epimetheus (this was used for a PVP mount, so cannot be used, maybe)
    Eurybia
    Eurynome I & II (There were two different Titans of the same name)
    Hecaterus
    Helios (there is a spell called this used by the AST job, so cannot be used)
    Hyperion (There is a Gunblade called Hyperion, so cannot be used)
    Iapetus
    Ichnaea
    Lelantos
    Leto
    Melisseus
    Menoetius (Used by a PVP Mount, so cannot be used)
    Metis
    Mnemosyne
    Oceanus (Used by a Serpent Monster in The Syrcus Tower, so cannot be used)
    Ophion (Used by a Monster in Elpis, so cannot be used)
    Pallas
    Perses
    Phoebe
    Prometheus (Boss in The Ghimlyt Dark, so can't be used)
    Rhea (There is a gathering item named this, so cannot be used, maybe)
    Selene (This is the fairy summoned by Scholars, so cannot be used)
    Styx
    Tethys
    The Mousai Titanides
    Theia

    List of Unused Underworld Deity Names
    (I'm listing these too because some of implications in the game's story so far)

    Acheron (a short FFXIV history lesson regarding this, The Boss Acheron was changed to Phlegethon before Patch 2.3 in Labyrinth of the Ancients, most players would probably not remember this)
    Aeacus
    Amphiaraus
    Ceuthonymus
    Charon
    Cocytus
    Eurynomus
    Hecate
    Hypnos
    Lethe
    Macaria
    Menoetes
    Minos (its a Greataxe Weapon, so cannot be used)
    Phlegethon (Boss in the Labyrinth of the Ancients, so cannot be used)
    Rhadamanthus
    Styx (River of Hades, Not the same Styx under Titans)
    Thanatos (Boss in the Labyrinth of the Ancients, so cannot be used)
    The Arai
    The Furies
    Trophonius

    OTHER:
    Nymeia might be Clotho, Lachesis or Atropos

    Just something to keep in mind since there is names some of you all probably don't recognize. Sometimes certain deities in the stories were listed as Titans and other times not depending what the city-state worshipped and weaved into their stories, but, this isn't a history class obviously of the real world, but to provide names on what you think might fit the Ascians and Ancients.
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    Last edited by Kaliesto; 02-14-2023 at 05:50 AM.

  7. #207
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    I would argue that Venat is Aphrodite as in at least the Japanese version they call her Venus which is the Roman God they slapped Aphrodite onto when they adopted the Greek Pantheon.
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  8. #208
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I would argue that Venat is Aphrodite as in at least the Japanese version they call her Venus which is the Roman God they slapped Aphrodite onto when they adopted the Greek Pantheon.
    You serious? Damn Localization Team strikes again.
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  9. #209
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Venat is not Aphrodite for several reason but mostly Venat is her actual name and not station like the Convocation, she was the previous Azem. Also, her name in JP is Venas while generally Venus is spelled as Wenusu (I re-checked and it's actually Biinesu, which is even more different) in JP, this is a common misnomer because the names sounds kinda similar but that's not the intention.
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    Last edited by WhiteArchmage; 02-14-2023 at 07:04 AM.

  10. #210
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    ヴェーネス is a character from Final Fantasy XII who was seen (by their group of origin and previous allies) as causing history to deviate from "the right course" in favor of putting the reins of history in the hands of man. I'd be surprised if the reference was deeper than that, but once in a blue moon, "thing reminds me of other thing so the connection is intended" ends up working out.
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    "I shall refrain from making any further wild claims until such time as I have evidence."
    – Y'shtola

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