Stricter requirements for Mentors.

[Zomkei]

isn't pvp mentor different? or did they change that?

or am i just remembering completely wrong? :thonk:

[DeNada]

There should be a written test when mentors apply for the certification where they are tested on job and dungeons/trials/raid mechanics.

Example: 1) What is the general opener for a 'insert job here' and what are the more niche openers and describe what kind of situations would you prefer the niche compared to general opener. 2) Describe the mechanics which you encounter in 'insert dungeon/trial/raid' here and explain how you would resolve such mechanics.

In addition to the written test, all would be mentors have to clear all current savage raids and extreme trials to prove that they are decent at the game (I'll exclude ultimates as that might narrow down the potential applicants too much)

As for trade mentors, it's a joke and should be completely removed.

[ICountFrom0]

There should be a written test when mentors apply for the certification where they are tested on job and dungeons/trials/raid mechanics.

Example: 1) What is the general opener for a 'insert job here' and what are the more niche openers and describe what kind of situations would you prefer the niche compared to general opener.

Why would most sprouts, under level 80, care about the proper opener for a savage tier level 90 fight, that sometimes contains abilities they don't even have?

Can you justify what this is on your list, as example question 1, when it would serve no use for actual sprouts?

[DeNada]

Because if so sprout wants to engage in serious content, and you aren't able to provide the correct guidance, can you really call yourself a mentor? The current certification is a complete joke and any Tom, Dick and Harry can become one provided they play long enough without learning anything.

mentor
/ˈmɛntɔː/
noun
an experienced and trusted adviser.

[hagare]

Because if so sprout wants to engage in serious content, and you aren't able to provide the correct guidance, can you really call yourself a mentor? The current certification is a complete joke and any Tom, Dick and Harry can become one provided they play long enough without learning anything.

mentor
/ˈmɛntɔː/
noun
an experienced and trusted adviser.

no sprout is in savage.
Because you lose sprout status long before you can do current savage.
As for older savage, your opener doesn't work there due to level sync.
Hence your knowledge of lvl 90 opener is useless

[ICountFrom0]

mentor
/ˈmɛntɔː/
noun
an experienced and trusted adviser.

Yes, and so you should know enough to be able to help them with things that actually matter.
I give advice and provide examples of how not to get banned, and exemplar behavior in the novice network.

I'm doing my part.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

There should be a written test when mentors apply for the certification where they are tested on job and dungeons/trials/raid mechanics[...]

A test for every jobs? I'm already cringing by just imagining what sort of tests SE designing for the green jobs.

As for trade mentors, it's a joke and should be completely removed.

This one here, I can agree. They're more than not are used as an easy card to re-access NN.

[VelKallor]

Yes, and so you should know enough to be able to help them with things that actually matter.

Crafting doesnt matter?

..............news to me

[Masekase_Hurricane]

Battle Mentor:
1. Completion of all current Extreme Trials per patch basis. (Yes, you lose your crown until you complete the latest trial on extreme)
Mentor roulette doesn't contain current Extremes

2. Completion of at least ONE current Raid Tier on Savage as of the X.1 Patch of an expansion. (Your previous crown will last until the release of the first raid in the expansion).
Mentor roulette doesnt contain current raids

3. 100 PvP Victories in Crystaline Conflict
This wouldn't even belong with battle mentor it's pvp

Mentors are there to help people up to the end of the current expansion story. They are not for current Extremes, savage or Ultimate. Also NN would have no mentors for quite a while as they would be either trying to clear (or would have left the game after clears). You're also pretty deluded if you think all Mentors can even remember every fight in the game.

[VelKallor]

A "written test", is this a game or a job? Y'know what this reminds me of?

Jobs in the US that demand a Masters degree...for a job that pays $13.00 an hr



Folks: lemme just remind you that mentors are VOLUNTEERS, they arent paid, they arent employees ( a fact that one sprout on Kujata had to be forcibly reminded of ), and they do this out of the goodness of their hearts.

Put rubbish like this in front of them and they will walk away "nuh uh I aint sitting a "written test" to do this.

Craft mentors have a very real and very valid purpose, saying that crafting "doesnt matter" or that " you arent a mentor unless you are a "leet raider" is a fast way to lose 95% of all current mentors, who, I remind you, do this out of generosity..

I dont care how many savages you have done, sprouts arent level 90, the vast majority DONT GIVE A RATS for savage or extreme, I repeat that it doesnt matter how many of those you have done, if when someone comes to you to ask for help and all you can do is flip them off and say "Just Google it" because "You are not there to hold their hand' then guess what.

You dont deserve to be a mentor.

As two organisations found out when they abused my goodwill, Im a volunteer, not an employee, and I can and will walk away anytime I want. As I seem to recall, one of those organisations had a conniption fit when they realised they had just honked off the only person who had been willing to come in and help out when they were short.

Thats what happens when they treated a volunteer like an unpaid employee. Mentors are volunteers giving of their own time. They can just as easily go to the Smith, decertify, you will never see them again.

DeNada: theres an old proverb from my days in D and D that comes to mind when I see this

When the Gods really want to punish you, what do they do? They give you your hearts desire. You might want to remember that in future.