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  1. #41
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    LianaThorne's Avatar
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Maduin
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Also please ignore when Yoshida HIMSELF that half the player base had participated in Eden's Promise Savage, with almost a third of the player base having cleared the tier
    We're just gonna ignore the two-third of players that didn't clear it or the half that didnt participate? Gotcha.
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  2. #42
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    Na'mira Yarhu
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    crafting mentor eh? im a fully fledged mentor and i literally dont know anything about all these fancy buff skills you can use in a crafting rotation. i mostly did those weekly deliveries for certain npcs and at some point i was just like: what do i need to be a mentor? oh i just need to collect 20 more items.

    its pretty ridiculous
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  3. #43
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    Aergrael Iyrnrael
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    Ragnarok
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Curisu View Post
    Just take the burger king crown away from everyday use and the quality of mentor's will increase.
    The quality will decrease significantly instead. I have seen far too many mentors that dont even know basic things yet comment as if they are right. Yet i also have seen sprouts and trade mentors that know more about savage content than they should (and yes, that includes EW savages! alts exist).

    Teaching is a completely diffirent skill towards being able to beat all content. Especialy since most savage content is out of scope for any sprout to begin with (there is no need to teach them EW savages, they cant start them. And for outdated savage content, good lucking finding a party with a severe lack of mentors).

    I would just add savage mentor as a new category altogether, and give mentors the choice to display this one instead of the standard burger king crown. Then when its relevant, they at least can show they can dish out a bit more skill wise, and by that provide potentialy more usefull information there. But the thing here is mostly, that advise of them is going towards other mentors and not sprouts.
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  4. #44
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    Saraide's Avatar
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by UkcsAlias View Post
    The quality will decrease significantly instead. I have seen far too many mentors that dont even know basic things yet comment as if they are right. Yet i also have seen sprouts and trade mentors that know more about savage content than they should (and yes, that includes EW savages! alts exist).

    Teaching is a completely diffirent skill towards being able to beat all content. Especialy since most savage content is out of scope for any sprout to begin with (there is no need to teach them EW savages, they cant start them. And for outdated savage content, good lucking finding a party with a severe lack of mentors).

    I would just add savage mentor as a new category altogether, and give mentors the choice to display this one instead of the standard burger king crown. Then when its relevant, they at least can show they can dish out a bit more skill wise, and by that provide potentialy more usefull information there. But the thing here is mostly, that advise of them is going towards other mentors and not sprouts.
    Sprouts are actually quite good at the game in comparison all things considered and it always frustrates me when people are trying to defend bad play by trying to hide behind sprouts.
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  5. #45
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    Kes13a's Avatar
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    Etherea Stormaire
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    Zalera
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    White Mage Lv 100
    the best thing to do with the mentoring system is remove the reward mount.

    I would say a fair number of people who sign up to be a mentor only do so for the mount at the end, and if that was removed, I suspect a large number of mentors would disappear.

    the people you want to be mentors would be doing it anyway, and already are, with or without the title or icon. having a list like the OP wants just means you wind up with elitist pricks as a mentor instead of people mostly in it for the mount. thats not a good trade off.
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  6. #46
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    Payadopa Astraya
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    Spriggan
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    Conjurer Lv 71
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Expecting someone to do the work you’re not willing to do yourself.
    Both sides of the coin sound bad on this one
    Talking and asking/answering in an MMO is normal. What are we even talking about here. lol
    This is silly.
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  7. #47
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    We're just gonna ignore the two-third of players that didn't clear it or the half that didnt participate? Gotcha.
    We're just gonna ignore that the game would be on the verge of collapse without the content keeping those people around?
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  8. #48
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    the people you want to be mentors would be doing it anyway, and already are, with or without the title or icon.
    They are not doing synced duties though. A mentor who did 2000 mentor roulette duties without learning the mount doesn't exist.
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  9. #49
    Player SassyAssassin's Avatar
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    Cinnabun Arulaq
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    Louisoix
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DixieBellOCE View Post
    My argument is that somebody who does not participate in Endgame Activities is arguably, not suitable to be 'Mentoring' new players, and is most likely going to give out false information.
    There’s more to the game than a few current savages or extremes, I saw people with the ultimate legend titles that couldn’t clear Sephirot unreal, you can’t base how good of a player someone is by that.

    Mentors are supposed to guide and help throughout the game before savages and the majority of ffxiv players aren’t massive raiders to begin with. There’s far more information to learn in the game as a whole.
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  10. #50
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    Tira Mu
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Also please ignore when Yoshida HIMSELF that half the player base had participated in Eden's Promise Savage, with almost a third of the player base having cleared the tier
    Participating in high end content doesn't make someone a hardcore raider. A casual can participate in Ex and Savage content, and they regularly do. To a casual or mid-core player, Savage content is a side activity they occasionally participate in alongside the other stuff that they do more regularly.
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    Last edited by Tiramu; 01-09-2023 at 11:56 PM.
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