Will Black Mages ever get Ultima?

[Wyssahtyn]

man, trying to learn ultima for ramza in war of the lions was such an awful experience

[RitsukoSonoda]

man, trying to learn ultima for ramza in war of the lions was such an awful experience

well... they could just make you earn special points by doing things with the Paladin shield equipped since this game doesn't have a slot to equip magicites... but then I guess that would make ppl have to lvl PLD in order to actually equip the shield needed... >.>

[RyuDragnier]

man, trying to learn ultima for ramza in war of the lions was such an awful experience

If you know how to manipulate the AI, it gets a little easier. Put a female unit close to Celia and Lede at Limberry Castle and Ramza out of their reach. Make sure that unit has the Black Costume and Angel Ring equipped to make them immune to Instant Death and Stop (already immune to Charm because also female). Rather than do their usual assassination techs, they'll attempt to cast Ultima on that unit, so move Ramza right next to them before it goes off, and boom, easy Ultima.

[Wyssahtyn]

If you know how to manipulate the AI, it gets a little easier. Put a female unit close to Celia and Lede at Limberry Castle and Ramza out of their reach. Make sure that unit has the Black Costume and Angel Ring equipped to make them immune to Instant Death and Stop (already immune to Charm because also female). Rather than do their usual assassination techs, they'll attempt to cast Ultima on that unit, so move Ramza right next to them before it goes off, and boom, easy Ultima.

tried doing that i think, but they'd just run up and do normal melee attacks or some bs like that.

[Fyrebrand]

Such devastation!

I mean, they could give us a spell that looks like Ultima, and for all intents and purposes unofficially just is Ultima, but is named "Devastation." I would argue the meme value alone makes it so much better than actually getting Ultima.

[Alpheus]

I would imagine no, much like how we won't get Ardor from XII in XIV (I'm pretty sure one of RDM's spells/skills would have been called as such if it wasn't used in the story, much like Meltdown in XI being fenced off in the ENG client, Merton was added as a SCH spell but for the ENG client it was renamed Kaustra as Meltdown was used similarly to how XIV used Ardor in the lore [as a synonym for a cataclysmic event the enemy faction was working towards], that's my assumption though because Kaustra is a swerve but in all fairness the localization team was probably sold on the name Kaustra [as it is a really good name for a FF spell])

[Renalt]

tried doing that i think, but they'd just run up and do normal melee attacks or some bs like that.

I wanna say it might be because of level? I know main story events scaled with you and if you get there at a low enough level they won't have access to certain abilities. Or at least the stats to cast it due to low MP.

[Lunalepsy]

Or is that not allowed because of the lore?

Nope. It's too stressful!

[flowerfairy]

I was gonna say something about how Ultima could potentially be an upgrade to Foul that forces you to choose between using Xenoglossy for movement or Ultima for higher damage at the cost of movement, but then I remembered Foul is instant cast now :/.

I also don't like how Foul is instant cast. It's pretty much button bloat for no reason when it does the same exact thing as Xeno. Foul upgrading to be stronger than Xeno and hard-casted sounds cool

[Eraden]

I also don't like how Foul is instant cast. It's pretty much button bloat for no reason when it does the same exact thing as Xeno. Foul upgrading to be stronger than Xeno and hard-casted sounds cool

Hold on. Isn't Foul AoE and Xeno single target? That is how Mao has been using them. Foul is reserved for AoE rotations and Xeno for single target rotations.