Dear Squeenix: Instead of using FOMO to promote PVP...

[Deveryn]

"FOMO" when you have 4 months to do it. That shit was done within the first month. If anything there should be more rewards / incentive so people keep playing PVP, CC ranked queues are constantly dead

If they removed the penalty for losing ranked matches, people might do it more. I got up to Platinum in the first season and never touched it again because it's hard to get any kind of momentum with people literally dragging you down and holding you back. I hit a casual when it comes up in Wondrous Tails and that's it.

[Renalt]

Wait there is PVP in FFXIV ?

Well in Balmung we call it "weapon measuring". If she doesn't have a bigger weapon than I do...she isn't worth the time.

[Rithy255]

I don't really think I'll ever be interested in the current PVP system, don't get me wrong it's pretty decent but I rather just play a more PVP team based game... I think the only thing that would motivate me to play ff14 PVP is good glams or something. Currently I have no real reason to feel rewarded for playing it with a lot of the rewards being Job gear that doesn't really appeal to me or mounts which I don't really collect.

I guess if they also made PVP more fun somehow? idk it's decently fun but nothing that will get me wanting to play it a lot.

[Absurdity]

I think the only way to really improve pvp would be if they managed to remove the underlying jank. The slow server ticks just don't lend themselves well to fast-paced unscripted gameplay, we can see that in how often Guard and Purify simply fail to do their job because you got snapshotted at an unfortunate time.

The new pvp system is already quite fun, when it works as intended and doesn't feel like you died through no fault of your own.

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

And what about people who start the game outside of those 4 months?

They will possibly be able to obtain things later down the line.

The whole FOMO of this is because we had only two Series Passes, therefore no data to pull from.

If they had put the Series 1 rewards immediately up for Crystals, it would've defeated the purpose of having Passes in the first place. If a Series reward is available for Trophy Crystals immediately after the series ends, why play that series?

It promotes activity by encouraging to play in a specific time frame. It is not mutually exclusive to unvaulting rewards at a later time.

I suggest we wait until Series 3 and 4 before we lose our minds over Series rewards being hypothetically time limited so we actually have data.

[Ranaku]

I mean the rewards give you no gameplay advantage and they are all cosmetic, they are freely available to every player unlike feast who was basically just wintrading and having the right connections.

There has always to be either time pressure or another reward to give people the feeling that they actually got something that is worth their time investment. Raiders get to wear really neat glam before everyone else, same with Ultimates. And though they are not timegated they still need a lot of time investment.

So it is just fair that finally pvp players also get at least something to show off.

[Saraide]

I mean the rewards give you no gameplay advantage and they are all cosmetic, they are freely available to every player unlike feast who was basically just wintrading and having the right connections.

There has always to be either time pressure or another reward to give people the feeling that they actually got something that is worth their time investment. Raiders get to wear really neat glam before everyone else, same with Ultimates. And though they are not timegated they still need a lot of time investment.

So it is just fair that finally pvp players also get at least something to show off.

Show off what exactly? That they managed to queue up enough times to get the rewards? You gain almost full progress for losing aswell.

[Corrupted]

Skill is absolutely the issue the majority of the time. I know from my own experience and discussions with others. If people aren't all on board with trying to actually hit objectives and play smart, you're screwed and the fun is gone. It's been a long road to get victory achievements and I've taken a nice break because of this.

I'm not denying that there have been some issues in balance, but even PLD cheese was overcome by people actually coming together and focusing on fighting off the problem.

I disagree, skill was never the issue. What you're describing is the exact problem I mentioned in my comment; people choose to ignore the objectives and focus someone or troll or whatever you wanna call it.
And being on board with 4 strangers while tough, it's not as scarce as you make it sound, you'll occasionally get that one BLM focusing their friend/grudge or that dancer that goes after someone then dies in 4 vs 1 etc..
It has nothing to do with skill, you see this less in ranked but casual is uh.. a forest fire lmao

[Ranaku]

Show off what exactly? That they managed to queue up enough times to get the rewards? You gain almost full progress for losing aswell.

Well then it shouldn't be a problem to not miss out on it, right?

[Saraide]

Well then it shouldn't be a problem to not miss out on it, right?

Sure, if you provide the time machine to people who werent playing the game at all at the time. I guess they should have just worked harder.