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  1. #401
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Imagine calling Ultimates casual. Also you should care, carrying others should not be something you do
    Who cares? Its group content and someone's always going to be carried. It ain't that serious.
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  2. #402
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Who cares? Its group content and someone's always going to be carried. It ain't that serious.
    I care, and so should everyone else. And saying someone will always be carried is garbage logic
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  3. #403
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I care, and so should everyone else. And saying someone will always be carried is garbage logic

    Stop getting so many damage downs and deaths then? *shrug*
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  4. #404
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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Stop getting so many damage downs and deaths then? *shrug*
    That FireMage point too, he don't want people stacking those like candy in his team anymore.
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  5. #405
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Stop getting so many damage downs and deaths then? *shrug*
    Stop having people kill me? Yeah I'll get right on that t-cup. Again, I don't get carried, evict me from your head would you please? Dismissed
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  6. #406
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    That FireMage point too, he don't want people stacking those like candy in his team anymore.
    He's the one failing the mechanic though lol.
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  7. #407
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Who cares? Its group content and someone's always going to be carried. It ain't that serious.
    They're talking about Ultimate content, in general you're not carrying anyone at that level.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  8. #408
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    Burmecia's Avatar
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    Jitah'li Habhoka
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magikazam View Post
    Just sound to me you want to be carried for the reward with no repercution if you play badly.
    oh no you saw right through me

    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    Striking dummies. The vast majority of low DPS comes from players not using their job actions properly. Even if you don't want to go through the balance or look up rotations, you should still be able to piece together an acceptable rotation, utilising all the actions available to you. Just going from a DRG only using Heaven's Thrust combo (and yes, I have seen that) to one that alternates between Heaven's Thrust and Chaotic Spring is going to be a relatively massive gain, start adding in LotD and suddenly their DPS has jumped up again. Knowing your job basics and getting used to them on a striking dummy is going to do far more for someone than trying to learn in a dungeon.
    but your argument is good, sir
    have like °˖✧◝(⁰▿⁰)◜✧˖°
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 12-31-2022 at 12:21 AM.

  9. #409
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    Raoabolic's Avatar
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    If everyone plays perfectly then no one will be "carried". Speaking of which, I hear robots can call out mechanics better than any human. I'm sure the two don't correlate though. ;^)
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  10. #410
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    They're talking about Ultimate content, in general you're not carrying anyone at that level.
    Ehhhhh. Yes and no. UCoB and UwU are so watered down nowadays you can absolutely zombie through them. Hell, some raiders are running "Death-cob". The current "high score" if you will is 91 deaths and they still have the DPS to kill Bahamut. Now that isn't something a casual group could accomplish but it does highlight just have ridiculously lax both fights have become. TEA is somewhat carriable if you give your weaker link all the easy assignments. They'll have very little to do until Wormhole. DSR is really the sole exception where you can't carry someone. We don't yet have the damage to overcome DPS checks after multiple deaths and damage downs and most of the fight is one massive mechanic check.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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