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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Personally, I don't have a problem with people messing up and I hate using meters/logs in such a manner, but I love the irony of people like FireMage who advocate for meters so they can "kick out the bads" cuz he thinks he's a "high end" player and its never his fault when things go wrong, but the logs shows how inconsistent he is and by his own standards people would be kicking him out lol.
    We all dislike FireMage but let's be realistic because that's not how it works. While he has room for improvement, his logs wouldn't get him kicked and dying or getting damage downs is a part of raiding. I'm mentioning this so others don't read your post and think "well I should definitely never go near PF". Raiders really aren't that fussy. We just want our team members to be willing to learn and improve and want to contribute their best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    We all dislike FireMage but let's be realistic because that's not how it works. While he has room for improvement, his logs wouldn't get him kicked and dying or getting damage downs is a part of raiding. I'm mentioning this so others don't read your post and think "well I should definitely never go near PF". Raiders really aren't that fussy. We just want our team members to be willing to learn and improve and want to contribute their best.
    You wont get coherent logic from that person. They fail to back up any of their claims.
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    We all dislike FireMage but let's be realistic because that's not how it works. While he has room for improvement, his logs wouldn't get him kicked and dying or getting damage downs is a part of raiding. I'm mentioning this so others don't read your post and think "well I should definitely never go near PF". Raiders really aren't that fussy. We just want our team members to be willing to learn and improve and want to contribute their best.
    I'm simply using his own words. Not saying things in a realistic manner, but in "his" world where "bads should be kicked out" he would qualify as one of those. Simply pointing out the irony is all.

    That said, getting damage downs is part of progression when you're learning the fight. If more than half your clears have them that's not a good thing. Like I'm hot garbage as a black mage and I don't have a single clear with a damage down in p6s.

    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I live rent free in Ransu's head. T-cup doesn't actually understand how fflogs works and thinks it only records kills
    Clears are the only ones that matter. I also think its funny that when people call you out on your hypocrisy its "you don't understand how fflogs work" or some other idiotic excuse lmao.

    Lets be real here though. FFLOGS should by default be privatizing players logs and meters will never be part of the game officially. That information is no one else's busisness.
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    Last edited by Ransu; 12-30-2022 at 06:57 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    We all dislike FireMage but let's be realistic because that's not how it works. While he has room for improvement, his logs wouldn't get him kicked and dying or getting damage downs is a part of raiding. I'm mentioning this so others don't read your post and think "well I should definitely never go near PF". Raiders really aren't that fussy. We just want our team members to be willing to learn and improve and want to contribute their best.
    Saying raiders "aren't this fussy" in a 39 page thread where raiders are asking for damage meters so they can kick people they think are bad at the game from content is pretty ironic to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Saying raiders "aren't this fussy" in a 39 page thread where raiders are asking for damage meters so they can kick people they think are bad at the game from content is pretty ironic to be honest.
    That's a very weird perception of this thread now, isnt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    Saying raiders "aren't this fussy" in a 39 page thread where raiders are asking for damage meters so they can kick people they think are bad at the game from content is pretty ironic to be honest.
    Disingenuous, the post.
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