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  1. #651
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Random drivel snipped...
    Genuine question - you seem to hate this game. I don't think I've seen a single post of yours anywhere that says anything positive. It seems your only reason for existing here is to be negative and attack people who talk about what they like or explain why the personal desires you have don't fit with this game. Why are you here?

    You're also trying to solve a complex math problem that you don't need to solve, it's been done. You don't need to be the engineer for MMO's. We know it works. Let's not talk about potency adjustments because it doesn't even matter - You scale the mobs/bosses to the tier of potency, not the other way around.
    That fails miserably when people have widely varying potencies in a dungeon.

    Also, explaining why you can't do something because of story, is the most un-fun reason anyone can come up with.
    I never said it was "because of story." It was a response to a few people who claimed there was no lore-based reason why sync would happen. I was simply pointing out that there is.

    We're also forgetting that WoW has all forms of scaling, where XIV lacks the amount of options that WoW provides. You still have the opportunity to go 1-shot blast stuff, use limited kits, use full kits in lower level areas, party/dungeon/zone sync for best exp. It's just providing more and wider options. You know. Fun.
    You know why I play FFXIV as my only MMO now and stepped away from WoW about 2 years ago? Because WoW - quite simply - wasn't fun for me. FFXIV is fun for me. I'm glad FFXIV didn't just copy WoW and end up imploding like WoW did. What each individual finds "fun" is different. It seems what you enjoy is quite simply not what FFXIV is about. So go a play game that fits what you want, and stop trying to change the rest.
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  2. #652
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
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    I don't hate the game. I want what XIV initially promoted but has been restricting. Forgive me sir, I just want to Kweh!

    I'm pretty sure WoW didn't implode because of level sync, it imploded because of a sexual harassment + major internal issues + Shadowlands being shit linear experience. You left WoW 2 years ago because everyone left WoW 2 years ago, you're not special. Most of your friends probably re-joined WoW this expac. lol

    FEEDBACK ABOUT MY FAVORITE GAME THAT CHANGES EVERY EXPANSION?! YOU MUST HATE IT! YOSHI-P WILL HEAR ABOUT THIS!

    Also I play both - I have criticisms for both.

    I also love all Souls games and I can comfortably criticize those too. Nobody safe out here.
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    Last edited by R041; 12-27-2022 at 12:55 PM.

  3. #653
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    I'm starting to feel like you've never actually played WoW since they started power syncing mobs to player level if you believe that.
    I've described exactly that in detail, multiple times in this very thread.

    I literally just leveled yet another character from scratch (5th 70) real quick so I could have a healer on the same server as my new mains. And I have many times accompanied friends as they leveled, usually as tank or healer to grant them even faster queues, from some 20-30 levels higher than they, and was still consistently the highest performer as long as I played better than the others and the situations didn't devolve into chaos (tank baiting out peoples' CDs only to stop just short of a full pull, etc.).
    Inb4 "'Full pulls' don't exist; there aren't any gates anyways!" They do. They're the largest pull within a nonetheless typical pace (given the number of packs to boss) that a party can survive under its present capacity (including CDs).
    There's a reason why the boosting services use XP locked characters equipped with BiS gear at the minimum level for a dungeon to run those paying for the boosts, and not max level characters in current Mythic gear.
    Yes, which is primarily that smaller kits are easier to bot. Now that one can pretty easily level to 60 in under 10 hours, demand for such services has dwindled significantly. And for those really pressed for time... there's the Blizzard boost service anyways, of little cost more at present token costs than paying a team of actual players to speedlevel you...

    You're assuming that what you find fun is what everyone else finds fun.
    Then why would he be specifically asking for additional options, his preferred form of which would be at no advantage?

    You're the one insisting that one-size-fits-all is the best approach and that any suggestion beyond what's already provided should warrant exile to another game.

    Changing the game to please you takes the game away form those of us who enjoy what it is.
    Again. Options.

    And he doesn't even appear to be asking for anything altogether new. Looking at his wishlist and other mentions, he appears to have asked for (A) certain changes often held as negative to be reconsidered and perhaps rolled back and (B) for the reality of the game to actually try to meet the promises and expectations on which the game has variously been hyped (actually available housing, to leverage and not to hamper the "all jobs on one character" trait of the game, an expansive and lived-in world, job identity, feeling like a WoL instead of just identical-job-identically-leveled-#225386, etc.).
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  4. #654
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
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    Right - I really haven't been asking for anything particularly new. Which is wild that I'm met with such hostility, saying I apparently hate the game? All I want is more of what we used to have, more of what we currently have, and existing systems shifted around a little. So apparently wanting more XIV is bad which means I hate the game, and wanting less is good? I don't think this is the type of echo chamber you'd want for your game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    It seems what you enjoy is quite simply not what FFXIV is about. So go a play game that fits what you want, and stop trying to change the rest.
    This type of response feels pretty disgusting to me and hurts - It churns my stomach, when all I want is more XIV variety and opportunities - The XIV I've been playing for 12 years. Met with "Stop trying to change XIV" when I'm just asking for what XIV is or was.

    My wants and the responses have basically boiled down to..
    1. More jumping on points in MSQ (Maybe think about making each 1-2 expac self-contained story) NO! LESS OPPORTUNITY! BUY BOOST!
    2. More quests outside of MSQ on-par with MSQ/Hildibrand NO! LESS XIV!
    3. More rewards for Quests NO! LESS OPPORTUNITY!
    4. More Leves NO! LESS OPPORTUNITY! PLAY BLU!
    5. More housing (preferably instances like apts but Med/Large with a patio) NO! LESS OPPORTUNITY!
    6. Move FC Housing Gil makers to FC GC NO! LESS OPPORTUNITY!
    7. More kit choices in individual classes NO! LESS VARIATION!
    8. More defined kit for early levels NO! EASIER XIV!
    9. More Guildhests (Harder and to match current mechanics) NO! LESS OPPORTUNITY!
    10. More difficult Hunts (trains are boring) NO! EASIER XIV! PLAY EUREKA!
    11. More branched dungeons like ARR-HW NO! LESS VARIATION! PLAY WOW!
    12. More Sync options NO! LESS VARIATION! PLAY WOW!
    13. Higher server tick rate (This alone is destroying PvP and continues to confuse new players) NO! MORE LAG! PLAY WOW!

    Then they go and sit in their Med/Large House or AFK in Limsa, perfectly comfortable with everything around them slowly getting culled, boiled down into just a Visual Novel with Housing for RMT. (Did you know a Large house goes for around $2000 REAL dollars?)

    The absolutely massive slog MSQ with no easy on-ramp has been a detriment to me getting actual FF players and other friends interested in XIV. But it looks like it paid off, Yoshi. Because when the WoW exodus hit, you got that hoard of boosts you wanted.

    Now let's stop fucking around.
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    Last edited by R041; 12-28-2022 at 01:10 AM.

  5. #655
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    People as a whole who play xiv just need to be honest and admit they hate change. And that's Valid. Too bad MMOs are an iterative experience and will change.
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    Change is inevitable, especially if these games are gonna last more than a couple years.
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  7. #657
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberrycake View Post
    People as a whole who play xiv just need to be honest and admit they hate change. And that's Valid. Too bad MMOs are an iterative experience and will change.



    I feel like people also hate change for changes sake.
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  8. #658
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Change is inevitable, especially if these games are gonna last more than a couple years.
    You see, you say this and you and like several other people have made your entire pressence on this forum. "No this is a bad idea", literally being the contrarians to anything said in the name of change and forward progression. Anyone whos heres doing that needs to stop period and just admit the game can be better and we should just talk more about what needs to be changed over argung semantics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    I don't hate the game. I want what XIV initially promoted but has been restricting. Forgive me sir, I just want to Kweh!

    I'm pretty sure WoW didn't implode because of level sync, it imploded because of a sexual harassment + major internal issues + Shadowlands being shit linear experience. You left WoW 2 years ago because everyone left WoW 2 years ago, you're not special. Most of your friends probably re-joined WoW this expac. lol

    FEEDBACK ABOUT MY FAVORITE GAME THAT CHANGES EVERY EXPANSION?! YOU MUST HATE IT! YOSHI-P WILL HEAR ABOUT THIS!

    Also I play both - I have criticisms for both.

    I also love all Souls games and I can comfortably criticize those too. Nobody safe out here.
    A lot of people also forget that one key thing, XIV was promoted to me, shown to me, Commercialized to me, to be an MMO, and to be a game one plays with others. All of it's features were promoted to me, to be more then what I'm getting now. And we have the right to say that and want more and want it changed lmao.
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  10. #660
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Change is inevitable, especially if these games are gonna last more than a couple years.
    I agree, so maybe stop saying NO to everyone that has feedback on how we should evolve. You're not a bad dude, but you gatekeep quite a bit..

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I feel like people also hate change for changes sake.
    Then they should hate XIV, because XIV changes formula every expansion. The only thing they keep is how terrible MSQ systems are, which if anything is the one thing they need to change.
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    Last edited by R041; 12-28-2022 at 02:10 AM.

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