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  1. #11
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    Hope Sunflame
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Serious question. Do you enjoy playing FF14?

    If so, then stop complaining about the mogstore restrictions
    ... What? Like I get it, I may be snipping to make it sound worse than you intended. But... seriously? Lol...
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  2. #12
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by glitteringcosmos View Post
    That's the official reason they gave. From the announcement post in October:
    * Items that can only be used once per character have been excluded from the gifting feature to avoid the possibility of the recipient having already used the item before. Please refer to the Gifts for Friends Guidelines before purchasing items as a gift.
    I've wondered with this, if the exact problem isn't "whether people can check what their friend owns" but the consequences of not checking and buying something that they do own.

    Can things like purchased mount whistles and emote books be discarded? If not, then I suspect that a duplicate would become a permanent dead weight in your inventory, unable to be either used or discarded.

    And the same question for the job/story boosts. Does anyone know what happens if you try to use one when you're already past that point in the story? I do know that (having used a skip after playing partway through ARR on a character) it resets map completion, and probably general completion status, for dungeons you have already done. Maybe that's all that happens if you use a book that won't actually benefit you.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Uhh.. no. From your same source:
    This change was implemented as a countermeasure against fraudulent purchases made using the previous version of the gifting feature
    My reading of that statement is that fraudulent activity was the reason for stopping the old system, while avoiding doubling-up is the (official stated) reason for what can and can't be purchased under the new system that has replaced the problematic one.
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  3. #13
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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    And the same question for the job/story boosts. Does anyone know what happens if you try to use one when you're already past that point in the story? I do know that (having used a skip after playing partway through ARR on a character) it resets map completion, and probably general completion status, for dungeons you have already done. Maybe that's all that happens if you use a book that won't actually benefit you.
    So for story skips, cause I derped and bought a second Stormblood Boost for the same character, it just doesn't let you use it or discard it. It stops you from using saying 'you've already completed this story' and stays there taking up space. Which makes me confused as to why you can still buy job and story boosts if the stance is to prevent double purchasing of items a person may already have.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    So for story skips, cause I derped and bought a second Stormblood Boost for the same character, it just doesn't let you use it or discard it. It stops you from using saying 'you've already completed this story' and stays there taking up space. Which makes me confused as to why you can still buy job and story boosts if the stance is to prevent double purchasing of items a person may already have.
    Okay, so that answers that question. Back to being puzzled about where the difference might be.
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  5. #15
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    So for story skips, cause I derped and bought a second Stormblood Boost for the same character, it just doesn't let you use it or discard it. It stops you from using saying 'you've already completed this story' and stays there taking up space. Which makes me confused as to why you can still buy job and story boosts if the stance is to prevent double purchasing of items a person may already have.
    Codes were nice especially if you were gifting someone with alts. They could at least use the code on an alt if they already had the item. I don't think we'll be getting codes back but expanding what you can gift would be nice.
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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    ... What? Like I get it, I may be snipping to make it sound worse than you intended. But... seriously? Lol...
    Normally I'm all for criticizing SE and their decisions with the game(so call me a hypocrite for this if you want), but this issue reaches out beyond the game itself.

    You can criticize any other aspect of the game, but there's a valid reason for the current mogstore restrictions. The people who want them lifted have my sympathies, but they need to just accept it for what it is at the moment.

    Edit: Also, what are you even trying to say here? At least I was constructive. You just came in, said you were snipping to make it sound worse than intended, then laughed, and said nothing of actual importance.
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    Last edited by NekoMataMata; 12-27-2022 at 05:29 PM.

  7. #17
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    Renalt El'doran
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    This? Again?

    Look I like drama but enough of this.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

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    Elmind Exilus
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Okay, so that answers that question. Back to being puzzled about where the difference might be.
    The difference is purchasing a gift for someone else who might already have it versus purchasing something for yourself. When doing the latter (such as the aforementioned boost), you only have yourself to blame if you bought something you can't use. With the former, it gets much more complicated, especially around gift-giving times when multiple people could potentially be buying the same gift for the same person.

    Alas if that was the real reason then they would have restricted job boosts and the story boosts as well since you know... you can only use those once.
    The announcement specifically and explicitly points out that the reason involves the recipient being someone else. It's not only because of the "one use" thing.
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    Just do what I do give your friends your card info but make sure it is one with a low limit. You should have a low limit card anyways that you use solely for online stuff just incase your online accounts ever get compromised.

    If I am willing to get someone I gift means o trust them and if they burn said bridge fine it is a minor inconvenience lesson learned.
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    Last edited by Bobby66; 12-27-2022 at 05:28 AM.

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    They made the changes to mitigate a problem. No other solutions have been implemented as of yet. I can't see why they'd just reverse this policy, exposing them to fraudulent chargebacks.
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