Please add damage meters, Yoshi P.

[LittleImp]

As I said calling out someone for poor play is not toxic, sounds like your friend was playing poorly. So where exactly is the problem?

Publicly shaming a new player in a learning party hosted for their benefit, on a stream they never directly consented to be on isn't toxic? Ok lmao.

Let us also be fair, Xeno is known to be harsh, so what exactly was your friend expecting? No way he was a fan of them and never seen him be harsh to others.

The friend wasn't a 'fan'. He was just broadly aware that Xenosys Vex was a popular content creator at the time. Most people tend to know who people like MTQ, Mr.Happy or Momo are without ever seeing any of their content.

Problem is your friend probably thought he was good because no one said anything to him because in FFXIV any mention of performance allegedly can get you reported. So people do not say a thing then go on for a time thinking they are doing fine because they are able to clear the content.

This is how Xeno calls people out for poor play lmao:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLWa2c-_jL0

You think this is an acceptable way to treat another human being because they are 'playing poorly'?

[FireMage]

Publicly shaming a new player

Stop right there. A player doing endgame content is not new. There is no excuse to not know how to properly play at endgame, none

[VelKallor]

As I said calling out someone for poor play is not toxic, sounds like your friend was playing poorly. So where exactly is the problem?

Which is what Arthars got banned for, remember?

Offense is taken not given, a person only has control over their own actions.

Actions have consequences. BTW that same streamer has confessed he harassed and kicked new players in Prae for watching cutscenes.

[VelKallor]

Glad the MCH left the game, they clearly couldn't git gud and did the player base a favor

Ladykitties and gentlebunnies, my point is made.

We rest our case.

[FireMage]

Ladykitties and gentlebunnies, my point is made.

We rest our case.

Your point is nonexistent. That MCH is the one that was toxic by being a burden to others

[LittleImp]

Stop right there. A player doing endgame content is not new. There is no excuse to not know how to properly play at endgame, none

Don't you find it embarrassing that you've played the game for like 8 years, but it still took you months to figure out how to avoid choros ixou correctly?

I have to wonder what your excuse is B)

[FireMage]

Don't you find it embarrassing that you've played the game for like 8 years, but it still took you months to figure out how to avoid choros ixou correctly?

I have to wonder what your excuse is B)

I have to wonder why you're making things up. Pretty gross to make things up because you can't combat my point

[LittleImp]

I have to wonder why you're making things up

Live image of Firemage trying to figure out the safespot during Polyominoid Sigma → Choros Ixou.

[FireMage]

I love how you assume I don't know how to dodge Choros Ixou. Someone needs to learn how to properly look at parses

[Deceptus]

No.
No they do not lmao. Let me regale you with a fun story.

Back in my first raid tier (Alexander Creator), Xenosys Vex joined my PF to 'help', unannounced. At the time, I had no idea who he was, but my good MCH friend that I was progging with got super excited and explained to me who he was. A few pulls later, my friend excitedly tuned into the stream and I heard his excitement turn to horror as he realized he tuned in right as Xenosys Vex was publicly mocking him with his entire chat joining in, specifically because his DPS appeared low. That friend ended up feeling so gutted that he quit raiding for a long time after that experience, and then eventually stopped playing the game altogether.

My response to that person wasn't even specifically about meters. It was addressing the absolutely deranged notion that, quote, "The *only* toxicity in this game comes from toxic casuals".

Streamers live and die by drama they create. Normal people don't do this. Xeno is an extreme outlier who is also a pompous, arrogant @$$.