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  1. #51
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    Sanna Rosewood
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Literally no reasonable point being made here. Still going to blame you and others whom whine about scenario battles and how omg "hard" and I can already see the dev team please people like you by either taking away such quests or never bother improving. Again you are the problem for discouraging stuff like this.
    I never said I didn't like these or thought they were hard. I enjoyed all of them. The only solo instance I had trouble with was the Naadham and that's due to me trying to Unga Bunga it on whm as up until then everything was hitting me like a wet noodle and I could take on huge packs without being turned into mincemeat. Only after forcing myself to get out of that mind set did I clear it.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    I never said I didn't like these or thought they were hard. I enjoyed all of them. The only solo instance I had trouble with was the Naadham and that's due to me trying to Unga Bunga it on whm as up until then everything was hitting me like a wet noodle and I could take on huge packs without being turned into mincemeat. Only after forcing myself to get out of that mind set did I clear it.
    Ah ok my bad, I was being a little stinker with that last post then.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Literally no reasonable point being made here. Still going to blame you and others whom whine about scenario battles and how omg "hard" and I can already see the dev team please people like you by either taking away such quests or never bother improving. Again you are the problem for discouraging stuff like this.
    Good. "You" took skill ceiling from our jobs. It's only fair if "we" use your favourite weapon - incessant whining - to ruin something you enjoy. Enjoy your visual novel with no combat duties whatsoever in 7.0.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Good. "You" took skill ceiling from our jobs. It's only fair if "we" use your favourite weapon - incessant whining - to ruin something you enjoy. Enjoy your visual novel with no combat duties whatsoever in 7.0.
    Maybe then they can finally implement dating mechanics lol
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Good. "You" took skill ceiling from our jobs. It's only fair if "we" use your favourite weapon - incessant whining - to ruin something you enjoy. Enjoy your visual novel with no combat duties whatsoever in 7.0.
    Ok, this pop up so often that I will make a pledge: can we stop with these Visual Novel non-sense please? I guess this must a STEAM thing when it makes VN more expose to mainstream, and I feel like people just casually use it as a beating stick. Like, guys, heavy cutsceen JRPG is not a new nor a rare thing. Xenosaga was a triology of 3 games came out in 2006 and it was literally a movie. Trail of Cold Steel is a series that started in 2013 that just recently had its 5th and last entry. The 5th games hasn't come out in English but you can find youtube series that have all the cutsceen in the 4th games and it'll add up to 20+ hours. And guess what? It's the most successful series NIS ever release, so much that they're going back to localize the older games of franchise while the Japanese developer already start release the next series.

    And no, none of those are comparable to an actual visual novel. And I'm saying this as a person had started reading Visual novel back in the 90', and read the first tittle from TYPE-MOON (once of the biggest company in the VN scene currently) when they started out as just a doushijin writer. VN with gameplay is a very specific thing, you can go play Eien no Aselia (Aselia of the Eternal in English) if you want to see what it looks like, most of them actually very similar to the classics SRPGs on the NES back in the day.

    So ...

    Point 1: FF14 is no where near what an actual VN is.

    Point 2: you'll be surprise at how many people enjoy that kind of games. Who know, maybe that's one of the reason why FF14 is enjoying its current success?


    Those kind of games exist, and the people who enjoy them exists too!. I personally can never get into the Diablo type of game, but I would never go around ditching on those game or the people playing them.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 12-22-2022 at 03:54 AM.

  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Ok, this pop up so often that I will make a pledge: can we stop with these Visual Novel non-sense please? I guess this must a STEAM thing when it makes VN more expose to mainstream, and I feel like people just casually use it as a beating stick. Like, guys, heavy cutsceen JRPG is not a new nor a rare thing. Xenosaga was a triology of 3 games came out in 2006 and it was literally a movie. Trail of Cold Steel is a series that started in 2013 that just recently had its 5th and last entry. The 5th games hasn't come out in English but you can find youtube series that have all the cutsceen in the 4th games and it'll add up to 20+ hours. And guess what? It's the most successful series NIS ever release, so much that they're going back to localize the older games of franchise while the Japanese developer already start release the next series.

    And no, none of those are comparable to an actual visual novel. And I'm saying this as a person had started reading Visual novel back in the 90', and read the first tittle from TYPE-MOON (once of the biggest company in the VN scene currently) when they started out as just a doushijin writer. VN with gameplay is a very specific thing, you can go play Eien no Aselia (Aselia of the Eternal in English) if you want to see what it looks like, most of them actually very similar to the classics SRPGs on the NES back in the day.

    So ...

    Point 1: FF14 is no where near what an actual VN is.

    Point 2: you'll be surprise at how many people enjoy that kind of games. Who know, maybe that's one of the reason why FF14 is enjoying its current success?


    Those kind of games exist, and the people who enjoy them exists too!. I personally can never get into the Diablo type of game, but I would never go around ditching on those game or the people playing them.
    Hmmm. No.

    Sorry, not sorry.
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Hmmm. No.

    Sorry, not sorry.
    A man plays a story-focused MMORPG, hates story, blames everyone but himself and his choice of game for game having different priorities from other MMORPG.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    Hmmm. No.

    Sorry, not sorry.
    Don't be. I already know your answer would be a no lol.

    But someone just have to say it.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heroman3003 View Post
    A man plays a story-focused MMORPG, hates story, blames everyone but himself and his choice of game for game having different priorities from other MMORPG.
    There is a good way to tell a story in a video game.

    And then there is whatever XIV is doing.
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  10. #60
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    Raogrimm Ironfist
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuri View Post
    There is a good way to tell a story in a video game.

    And then there is whatever XIV is doing.
    *sigh*
    you don't understand.
    *sigh*
    there was a bird and it was sad. The hamburger was symbolic.
    *sigh*
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