The next "Oh, shit its Ranjit" post...

[Asari5]

my biggest problem with ranjit is that it wasnt thancred who defeated him for good

[Gullis]

Only problem I have is that it drags on for too long. But its a cool fight

[Carin-Eri]

Uhm ... no. It's not like those being were weak that temping was the only weapon, so any one who manage to avoid it can just walk up and put a dagger in their throat. All of them are capable of mass destruction. In between we also fight ... you know, dragons, alien weapon of mass destruction, ancient heroes, other demi-gods (warring triad). The WoL is a peerless warrior that had faced down all the trial of strength from West to East in our journey, that strength didn't simply come from Headalyn blessing, because more than half of the trial we faced that's not even relevant.

In fact, there is nothing I saw in ShB that come close to compare to anything we had fought at the source.

Yeah - but one point you are missing here. In all of those instance the Warrior of Light had help. Whether it was the Scions or a group of Adventurers, we pretty much never truly went one-on-one against anyone.
And whilst I'll concede that it was at a point in time when the WoL was still up-and-coming, the fact is the first fight against Zenos ('In Crimson it Began') - which was the first real one-on-one fight we'd experienced at that point - demonstrated exactly what could happen when we fought alone against a foe of superior strength.

[Saraide]

Uhm ... the difference is that was a sparring match? Have you ever had a sparring match in real life against a mentor? While they will commend your ability and even may say something that you make them fight for it, it's always in the context that they actually synch down to what they believe someone equal to your ability. In a do or die fight they will wipe your butt.

It's fairly obvious at that point Venat had a pretty good guess of our role and the gravitas of the situation. The match was more of a test of skill and mental fortitude of the WoL, she commend us to manage to push her as far as we did given our form, not that we manage to be her equal. It's the same as the fight when she tested us at the end. Through out Elpis eposide when a real risk evolve the Ancient all demonstrate abilities far above what we can do, and I don't mean by just simply creation magic. I mean ... she fly up and chase after the Meteion into space for a while ... think we can do that?

Like ... the WoL had fought to an inch of our life before, and it usually shows how spent we are in the after match, win or lose. Did you even see us or her try to catch our breath at the end of that sparring match?

Towards the end she got serious and didnt manage to crack our defense. Aetheric density is by far not all, combat mastery matters a lot. The fight against a full power hermes with the dummy brigade weakened to our level is another instance of overcoming the difference. As is the fight against hades in shb.

[hagare]

sure.
in 7.0

[KageTokage]

I personally feel like no solo duty should drag on so long that the boss has to go through more then one cycle of its mechanics per phase if you're doing a reasonable amount of the DPS...and both Ran'jit fights go way over that.

[NanaWiloh]

If you don't like the Ranjit fight then you are really going to hate the EW quest out in the cold.

[Jettinson]

The only good thing that came out of Ranjit, the Kung Fu Dragon Man, is helping creating the sick E11 boss design.

But I won't lie that enjoyed his English voice acting since he gave that Saturday morning cartoon villain vibe

[Jojoya]

Only problem I have is that it drags on for too long. But its a cool fight

It's almost like the fight was a stalling tactic on Thancred's part to give Ryne and the WoL time to get away and do what Ryne needed to do before Ranjit could get a chance to interfere. Thancred had clearly walked into that fight not expecting to walk away from it. He was just trying to buy time. Being able to end the fight within 2 minutes wouldn't have been a believable delay.

I can appreciate the storytelling aspect to the fight but still strongly dislike playing as one of the NPCs. I want to be playing my own character, creating my own motivation for what I'm doing. That's why In from the Cold worked so well for me while the others don't - I was still my character with my own motivation, my soul had just been dumped in someone else's body.

[Raven2014]

Yeah - but one point you are missing here. In all of those instance the Warrior of Light had help. Whether it was the Scions or a group of Adventurers, we pretty much never truly went one-on-one against anyone.

If that is your point then Ramjit made even less sense. He soloed the entire Scion team on first encounter without barely breaking a sweat.

Yet Thrance was able to solo him on the 2nd in.

And for some reason, our WoL not only solo-ed him, we did so almost at an after thought. I felt like step side old man, I'm after your boss and you're in my way. And we hardly showed any exertion and just trot away to find Vauthry right after the fight.

This formula at least normally show the reason why the protag gotta his butt kick and how would he turned it around later. The problem here is FF14 use this formula without hardly any reasoning at all. The fights are just ... there.

the fact is the first fight against Zenos

At least with zenos I can at least accept why he kicked our butt. I still don't know what we did in the Eastern area that make us went from zeno kick our but with barely afford to fight as his equal. I can see our journey through Anzem made us a bit stronger, but bridging that power gap? Eh, noway.

Like I said I glad we dont see any more of these "you're force to lose" fight in EW, and hopefully never again. The way FF14 does them it's like they do it purely for theatric reason forget the logic somewhere.