The next "Oh, shit its Ranjit" post...

[Raven2014]

I consider Ranjit is the worst thing in ShB both in term of story and gameplay. Heck if I'm being bold I would even claim he's the worst thing ever in FF14. Very happy we didn't see another Ranjit in EW.

I love how it's this fight that broke em and you know not the three that happened before this. It's supposed to be kinda hard to try and show how the lack of being able to use his own aether actually affects Thancred. Also spoilers sheesh.

And it would have been ok if that was the last time we fought him. He should have been Thrance's trophy. In a way, Ranjit was the antithesis to Thrance in term they're both guardian of sort to Rin. Putting him in front of the WoL again kinda break the 4th wall for me, you know the dev put him there simply because they forced the player to lose to Ranjit for no reason earlier so they obligated to give the WoL the last say. It makes no sense in term of thematic writing.

And him being the worst MSQ fight I can remember doesn't help.

[Atelier-Bagur]

You guys are no fun. I bet if Mr. Ranjiit was just another flamboyant, pretty boy we would be singing a different tune, getting our knickers wet and wanting to make shipping arts that would make the average G'raha lover to shame.

[Atelier-Bagur]

I hate them with a passion. I seriously wish they would drop them, then remove the old ones too.

I would honestly wish if they actually had our own WoL character act as an npc during the RP fights. It should've happened during that hype moment with Hien and the leaders holding off Zenos waiting for the WoL to arrive in Ghimlyt Dark.

[Renalt]

I would honestly wish if they actually had our own WoL character act as an npc during the RP fights. It should've happened during that hype moment with Hien and the leaders holding off Zenos waiting for the WoL to arrive in Ghimlyt Dark.

That was what Hideo did with Raiden in MGS2. What better way to show how much a badass Snake was than seeing it from the prospective of someone else?

[XiRon]

The PROBLEM with the Ranjit crap in shb is...who the H is Ranjit? Hes a serious threat to an on-the-regular godpuncher, because....Funny Master Asia reference? and it just sucks the life out of the plot the momentum of any plot point gets a cinderblock to the face everytime he appears and we're supposed to care bc he was Rynes jailer EXCEPT we never see that AND they try this incredibly lame "Oh sure I abused the crap out of Ryne and gave her no freedom but I totally cared for her like a father" and...she doesnt care about Ranjit? At All.

And the Thancred mission blows bc apart from being yet another boring time we have to play a character we don't care one whit about (well, I don't) it goes absolutely nowhere. Thancred is a bloody pulp whos heart is about to explode but oh deus ex machina of the plot no.477659, Urianger miraculously appears from nowhere to mend Thancred wounds. And guess what else? Ranjits still alive! You kill him one Instance later! It was a total waste of time, and Ranjit wasnt even a dungeon boss despite all the build up!

Totally, utterly worthless, every single seen with Ranjit was padding out the wazoo.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I mean, I get the intent behind Ran'jit's character. He's supposed to be a fallen hero, who's spent so long fighting the sin eaters and watching Minfilias die that it's broken him, convincing him that it's hopeless and the best he can do is enforce peace so at least the people of Eulmore can ride out the end of the world in peace and pleasure because there's just nothing else that can be done. The problem is that he's never shown actually doing anything other than being an arrogant dick. We never really get to know him or see who he actually is, so it falls kinda flat. Kinda reminded me of the Heavens' Ward.

[Raven2014]

The PROBLEM with the Ranjit crap in shb is...who the H is Ranjit? Hes a serious threat to an on-the-regular godpuncher, because....Funny Master Asia reference?

Sometime writer just follow a formula without thinking too much about it. And the formula is "the protagonist always gonna get his butt kicked on the first encounter, going on the journey to power up, then go back and have a rematch". SB did the samethign with zenos, but at least it somewhat made sense.

Ranjit though? Absolutely none sense.

- It doesn't matter how much experience he has, the WoL's resume will make his look like a green recruit.
- He didn't just face the WoL, he had the ENTIRE scions + WoL gang up on him and bring all of them to their knee without breaking a sweat.


But those are not even the worst thing. After Endwalker Ranjit became even a worse in retrospect. The Scion being there as botched summon I can understand, but the WoL was summoned to the first in flesh and blood. As a being whose soul had 3-4 rejoining, even without accounting the experience, the raw power balance would be completely lopsided in the WoL's favor.

I mean, I get the intent behind Ran'jit's character. He's supposed to be a fallen hero, who's spent so long fighting the sin eaters and watching Minfilias die that it's broken him, convincing him that it's hopeless and the best he can do is enforce peace so at least the people of Eulmore can ride out the end of the world in peace and pleasure because there's just nothing else that can be done. The problem is that he's never shown actually doing anything other than being an arrogant dick. We never really get to know him or see who he actually is, so it falls kinda flat. Kinda reminded me of the Heavens' Ward.

Ranjit's role in the story should be as an antagonist to Thrance and Rin, not as a formulaic obstacle to the player. In fact, I was anticipating for having my butt kicked by another random NPC as per tradition in Endwalker, and was pleasantly suprised it didn't happen. I only hope it means the writer learnt the lesson.

[Boblawblah]

Sometime writer just follow a formula without thinking too much about it. And the formula is "the protagonist always gonna get his butt kicked on the first encounter, going on the journey to power up, then go back and have a rematch". SB did the samethign with zenos, but at least it somewhat made sense.

Ranjit though? Absolutely none sense.

- It doesn't matter how much experience he has, the WoL's resume will make his look like a green recruit.
- He didn't just face the WoL, he had the ENTIRE scions + WoL gang up on him and bring all of them to their knee without breaking a sweat.


But those are not even the worst thing. After Endwalker Ranjit became even a worse in retrospect. The Scion being there as botched summon I can understand, but the WoL was summoned to the first in flesh and blood. As a being whose soul had 3-4 rejoining, even without accounting the experience, the raw power balance would be completely lopsided in the WoL's favor.




Ranjit's role in the story should be as an antagonist to Thrance and Rin, not as a formulaic obstacle to the player. In fact, I was anticipating for having my butt kicked by another random NPC as per tradition in Endwalker, and was pleasantly suprised it didn't happen. I only hope it means the writer learnt the lesson.

I remember thinking after that cutscene, "Ok, this guy is going to have some insane power if he's just casually dumping on the WoL AND the Scions. I wonder what it is????" and...it was nothing. He's just some old dude that does magical kung fu. As you said, he should have been solely Thancred's enemy, with the WoL having little to nothing to do with him. Have the WoL be somewhere else when he shows up or something.

[Heroman3003]

Ranjit was first time writers gave us a story with actually subtle (by ff14 standard) storytelling where you use hints to piece together how Ranjit came to be the way he did. And the only response community at large gave is "literally who". And then same community wonders why neither writers nor game designers respect their intelligence. I love the story either way, but you can't convince me there's any subtlety in it. Ranjit's story is biggest example, and with reception he got? Probably last.

[Duskane]

It's the best instance in the game next to the Garlean Soldier one in EW