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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    IMO, any fight that has an enrage should have a damage meter enabled in that fight.

    Enrages occur when you don't deal enough damage in X amount of time. Damage is therefore important in those scenarios and should be viewable.
    In my experience, most groups don't even reach enrage. They just fail the mechanics, and are forced to reset more often than not until the timer of the duty runs out. DPS meters aren't going to do anything to help those groups.
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    Bull Kathos
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    Warrior Lv 62
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    In my experience, most groups don't even reach enrage. They just fail the mechanics, and are forced to reset more often than not until the timer of the duty runs out. DPS meters aren't going to do anything to help those groups.
    You're pointing at people who are unprepared for higher end content as the reason that the game doesn't need a feature in higher end content, that's kind of intellectually dishonest.

    No, an umbrella won't help you much in a sandstorm, but if it's pouring rain you might want one.

    If you're in a trap party or early prog you won't get much out of seeing dps (although it could help you spot points where you need to do something like hold burst) but even if it isn't part of your experience the fact is many groups do clear Savage and dps meters help that.

    My own experience with p8sp2 is a really good example. My group had been trying to move towards a week 1 clear for a long time now, we did Asphodelos in 8 days so we were close. The dps wall on p8sp2 on release was tough and we hit our heads against it a fair bit. I changed from SGE to SCH specifically to beat enrage because the advantages of SGE were already kind of moot and between Expedient and the addition to 2m burst via Chain Strat was more attractive. I don't know if we would have come to that conclusion without logs to ponder. We cleared in slightly under an hour of me swapping.

    Meters are very worth it in many situations, and pointing to one where they won't be helpful isn't really adding anything to the conversation.

    Quote Originally Posted by KatMajestic View Post
    Yoshi P has stated a million times there will never be damage meters of any kind ever in the game. It's banned and that will never change. Yoshi P has stated that he doesn't want to see people get excluded from content because of damage meters.
    Yoshida also claimed that FC housing would always be separate from personal housing.

    Sometimes he says things that aren't true, or changes his mind.

    Like a person.
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    Last edited by moroarda; 12-20-2022 at 08:23 PM.