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  1. #31
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    Atelier-Bagur's Avatar
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiramu View Post
    Agreed, and the biggest thing a lot of players dont understand is that a parser isnt going to help much for the vast majority of XIV's content. Parsing is mostly an FFLogs side game.

    XIV is mostly about mechanics, the vast majority of wipes are due to people eating mechanics and most raids in XIV dont have DPS checks or phase skips that are difficult to clear. You can probably count on one hand the number of battles that have tight DPS checks.
    From my experience on then current savage content, mechanics count more in the long run than tight dps checks. You cant clear a dps check without the party doing the dance first and foremost with little to no error. Its a heck a lot harder for groups to fully understand their part in that dance and memorizing mechanics without dying. Once thats figured out, the dps checks usually always clearable.

    This is of course saying as the majority rather than the absolute.
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  2. #32
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    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    Knowing who is dead weight and treating them as such isn't toxic, what's toxic is being the dead weight
    I dunno, I have a hot take for you.

    I've blind progged numerous MINE Ex and Savage raids. I dont consider myself particularly good. I might go as far as to say that I suck half of the time and am passably decent the other half. In other words, if I can do it, anyone can. People need to stop being babies and just get on with it.
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  3. #33
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    Renalt's Avatar
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Balmung
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    As a former WoW player, believe me, this isn't anywhere near WoW levels of toxicity.

    Granted, my scale may be skewed, I was around for the heyday of Barrens Chat.
    I miss Barrens Chat. I would hang out there for hours. Part of the reason I moved to Balmung. It's the closest I've got to Barrens Chat that wasn't exactly that.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  4. #34
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    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    Raiden
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    From my experience on then current savage content, mechanics count more in the long run than tight dps checks. You cant clear a dps check without the party doing the dance first and foremost with little to no error. Its a heck a lot harder for groups to fully understand their part in that dance and memorizing mechanics without dying. Once thats figured out, the dps checks usually always clearable.

    This is of course saying as the majority rather than the absolute.

    Thats kinda what Im getting at. I know there are some nasty dps checks out there, but for most content you just need to know how your job works and learn the mechanics and jobs a good'un.
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  5. #35
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    To the Mentor obviously. DUH!

    I joke. If healer I give to tank, If tank I give to healer, if DPS I give to other DPS.

    It switches if I see someone do "Above and Beyond"

    If everyone sucks I just give to no one or to the person with the coolest name...as long as it's not some anime/video persons name. Try to be original people.
    Whoa.

    That's almost exactly the same way I decide, Renalt. The only difference is if most people choose to be silent, I give my recommendation to the one person who said hi.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    No thank you.
    I feel the same way. I despise damage meters and not because they show me my deficiencies.

    I appreciate that information because I'm the kind of player who likes to do well. My goal was always to place in the upper 15%.

    No, it's because so many people can't interpret the data and use the damage meters solely to castigate others.
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    Last edited by Kacho_Nacho; 12-19-2022 at 09:08 AM.

  6. #36
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    I forget comms even exist most of the time, honestly.

    If any of you get me in a party, don't comm me. I already have the mount, I don't need the ego-stroking.
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  7. #37
    Player
    Tiramu's Avatar
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    Tira Mu
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    White Mage Lv 90
    The only time I care that I get comms is if everyone give me one and I'm on DPS. Means I was either the best in the group by a huge margin, or they all took pity on me. Either is a win. Lol
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  8. #38
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    PirateRyanG's Avatar
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    Aserana Swian
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    Odin
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    No thanks.

    Damage/heal meters are toxic.

    Quit Overwatch 2 when they added the stats page.

    Stats don't ever tell the full story, and it encourages bad play.

    They are fine in games where K/D matters.

    But damage/heal meters encourage poeple to top the charts rather than actually play properly.

    For example, I have seen plenty of healers 'top' the charts in games I play, but they are playing absolutely woefully. Their heals are mostly them opting not to remove themselvs from crap. Same with DPS. High DPS is great, but not if you are putting yourself in the way of death.

    Then you have people bitching if you don't do a job (as per the stats), etc.
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    Last edited by PirateRyanG; 12-19-2022 at 02:49 PM.

  9. #39
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    GTK0HLK's Avatar
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    Selene Halflight
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    Brynhildr
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    No to Meters<but yes to changes to the current in-game measures the SSS, or BField. something that at least teaches players something.., though of course actually doing/completing said content does more for that.>

    asides that, no to negative comms. but add a new subsection to comms/type of comm that you can select alongside individual comms.., A TeamPlayer/Team cooperation Commendation.<The more there is, the more at the very least you can give a decent gauge of a player being able to do well with the group with no qualms>
    but in the end, it's not like we can see each others comms in game with ease. so nonissue
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  10. #40
    Player Aword3213's Avatar
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    Eizen Aifread
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    Typhon
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    Monk Lv 100
    We’re all pressing buttons. What’s the difference?



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