Materia DC and DC travel.

[VelKallor]

throwing away a large house

Dixie that sucks HUGELY. I am so sorry, that must have been a huge wrench.

This post really shows some serious entitlement. Who gave OCE ownership over Tonberry and Kujata in the first place?

No one did , everyone already knew this would never happen, nor would I ever want it to. The disruption to communities would have been disastrous, so no that was never an option. On that we agree 1000%.

Look, we can go back and forth on the issue, but the keynote, the crux of it is simple and needs to be implemented ASAP

However, if Materia had opened with the ability to region travel, like they had mentioned, no one would have had to give up anything.

Agree. Leave jp isolated.

Activate regional DC travel between OCE->NA -> EU.

SEA and OCE could have moved to better ping, alleviated login queues and maintained their decade old communities.

is exactly correct.

[Tigerlilley]

This post really shows some serious entitlement. Who gave OCE ownership over Tonberry and Kujata in the first place? Last time I checked, they're marked as JP worlds. You want to force the SEA+JP base to be transplanted to OCE to pad your population without any regard to their feelings? Just suck it up and just pad your population, eh? Get out of here with that gross entitlement.

I agree that Materia needs help, but showing such a gross attitude isn't going to get more people to support your cause.

You're showing a lot of emotion for what is actually a fairly neutral post. When Crystal was created, they moved Balmung, as well as a sprinkling of servers from each NA datacentre to populate it. It never started as empty and was playable and populated from the get go. It was a success. Sure, there were a TON of pissed people. But Yoshi and the team decided that Balmung and Gilgamesh together were just too much strain on the servers. The others like Brynhildr, Malboro, whatever, the people who were on these servers just got told they were going and given time to leave if they wanted to stay on Primal or Aether. It wasn't pretty at all. But it happened.

Korean servers also faced a merge that wasn't pretty, but was done for the health of the population. People lost houses, people were upset, etc. But it was done.

The fact that that didn't happen with OCE is understandable, and preferable, obviously. But its something they've done before (to the west tho, not JP, which is probably an important point) and so there were a lot of people wondering if they'd do it again. No need to go off at someone who has seen this solution work.

Someone said it earlier but this also wouldn't have worked for OCE. SEA pings higher to Aus so... it wouldn't have been the same benefit for everyone.

SEA and OCE could have moved to better ping, alleviated login queues and maintained their decade old communities.

is exactly correct.

Just to be clear - when I said SEA and OCE could move to better ping, I was meaning both the region travel was open AND the servers were in SEA, not Sydney. Regardless, even just region travel would have given people who were already in raid groups a chance to both go and still raid. It would have been a much easier decision for players.

[LaylaTsarra]

You're showing a lot of emotion for what is actually a fairly neutral post. When Crystal was created, they moved Balmung, as well as a sprinkling of servers from each NA datacentre to populate it. It never started as empty and was playable and populated from the get go. It was a success. Sure, there were a TON of pissed people. But Yoshi and the team decided that Balmung and Gilgamesh together were just too much strain on the servers. The others like Brynhildr, Malboro, whatever, the people who were on these servers just got told they were going and given time to leave if they wanted to stay on Primal or Aether. It wasn't pretty at all. But it happened.

Yes they did. They did what was needed and should have done so this time around as well. OCE doesn't own those servers SE does and doing what was needed in creating a "functioning" DC should have been done. I was on Balmung during that move to Crystal by the way.

Creating a Dysfunctional DC and letting people who moved there have to pay the price for poor decision making is unacceptable. Enabling DC travel is the only solution at this point in time and action is needed quickly. With respect to Dynamis they could have shuffled NA servers just like the did with Japan recently to even them out at 8 worlds per data center although in the case of Dynamis I have no doubt that DC will grow and prosper soon enough.

Note: 60 minutes waiting on a PVP on Sophia atm and this is the 3rd day trying to get it to run. This is during prime time on a weekend. I guess i can just hop over to Japan or NA or the EU and queue there. Oh wait I can't. I suppose I need to join a Discord to get it to run sure that's the solution.

[Aravell]

You're showing a lot of emotion for what is actually a fairly neutral post. When Crystal was created, they moved Balmung, as well as a sprinkling of servers from each NA datacentre to populate it. It never started as empty and was playable and populated from the get go. It was a success. Sure, there were a TON of pissed people. But Yoshi and the team decided that Balmung and Gilgamesh together were just too much strain on the servers. The others like Brynhildr, Malboro, whatever, the people who were on these servers just got told they were going and given time to leave if they wanted to stay on Primal or Aether. It wasn't pretty at all. But it happened.

Korean servers also faced a merge that wasn't pretty, but was done for the health of the population. People lost houses, people were upset, etc. But it was done.

The fact that that didn't happen with OCE is understandable, and preferable, obviously. But its something they've done before (to the west tho, not JP, which is probably an important point) and so there were a lot of people wondering if they'd do it again. No need to go off at someone who has seen this solution work.

Someone said it earlier but this also wouldn't have worked for OCE. SEA pings higher to Aus so... it wouldn't have been the same benefit for everyone.





Just to be clear - when I said SEA and OCE could move to better ping, I was meaning both the region travel was open AND the servers were in SEA, not Sydney. Regardless, even just region travel would have given people who were already in raid groups a chance to both go and still raid. It would have been a much easier decision for players.

There's been no record of servers being moved to different regions, the Crystal move was within its own region. They'd get some backlash for breaking communities, sure, but it's still a move of NA to NA. Trying to equate that to moving JP to OCE is disingenuous. I'm sick of people saying simply moving some JP servers would solve the population issue, I see the same people constantly saying that they deserve to have Tonberry and Kujata in every thread about Materia, you'd obviously be irritated too if some people claim they own your server simply because they want it.

All of JP and SEA would move off any server they would transfer over, which leaves you with a dead shell of a server and leaves SE with tons of pissed off players. I'm beginning to think some people don't actually want the population, maybe they just want to see JP inconvenienced like they think SE is inconveniencing them.

[VelKallor]

I see the same people constantly saying that they deserve to have Tonberry and Kujata in every thread about Materia, you'd obviously be irritated too if some people claim they own your server simply because they want it.

Not an option, I agree and always have.

Regional DC travel is whats needed.

[LianaThorne]

Not an option, I agree and always have.

Regional DC travel is whats needed.

We need the blessing of the JP playerbase for region travel to happen which is basically a pipe dream at this point since they've been asking for cross-DC to be removed for everyone. As easy as it is to say "just remove JP" (which I'm guilty of), I doubt they're going to exclude their home region from anything.

There's also some from EU who would rather not have region travel with NA cause *insert news based stereotype here* so region travel might even be an issue outside of JP and face pushback.

[LilFlowers]

Thirty minute healer queue for a 70 MSQ dungeon during "peak hours" sealed the deal with a world transfer for me. Though let it be known I swear with my right hand on the Encyclopedia Eorzea I will visit Materia if they add cross-region travel to see how it is or transfer back in the future if I hear good things.

[LaylaTsarra]

Thirty minute healer queue for a 70 MSQ dungeon during "peak hours" sealed the deal with a world transfer for me. Though let it be known I swear with my right hand on the Encyclopedia Eorzea I will visit Materia if they add cross-region travel to see how it is or transfer back in the future if I hear good things.

That is pretty much the state of affairs right now. People are leaving and not coming here. So what happens? Does SE merge these servers with another DC? Does it provide incentives for people to move/leave and then removes the DC or does it at least give those here an option to play the game and get their content done by enabling Data Center travel? If you can get your content done there would be less of an incentive to leave and certainly more of an incentive for people to come populate the servers.

Leaving it as it is with no action is not acceptable.

[LilFlowers]

I think for people who stay the best you could hope for if JP really stops Region Travel being a thing is them maybe shrinking Materia to 3 or 4 worlds then adding another 3 world DC somewhere in SEA but I'm unsure if that would work with how they handle the server locations for each region. Really do wish the best for OCE community sticking around.

[Tigerlilley]

There's been no record of servers being moved to different regions

Actually, there has been. EU servers were moved from Canada to ...where ever they are now in Europe, I forget. However, they were always marked as "EU" it's just that they...weren't.

I don't think moving Tonberry would have been a good move, either. But no need to insult people for having a discussion.

I think for people who stay the best you could hope for if JP really stops Region Travel being a thing is them maybe shrinking Materia to 3 or 4 worlds then adding another 3 world DC somewhere in SEA but I'm unsure if that would work with how they handle the server locations for each region. Really do wish the best for OCE community sticking around.

I think 2 servers in SEA linked with 2 in OCE would have been perfect. Of course it would have been nice to link to NA too for those that play outside of peak hours but yeah. None of this is going to happen