Playing an expansion as current content has been a lacklustre MMO experience

[R041]

I argue a lot of changes in design can be considered improvements rather than just childishly calling them that they butchered them. Curious did people back in the day actually were truly satisfied with the current design in the game at the time? Like lets be honest and take off the nostalgia goggles.

At the time it was a thing, I was a little frustrated with things like Cleric Stance as an example - But now I miss it. I miss being able to mess up, get too greedy, and I miss the damage boost. What's funny is Y'shtola still has it in Brave Exvius.

I don't like that they continue to make the choice for me. Just like how my AST Sect was changed to give SGE more reason to exist, and I won't even go over how they butchered my cards. Rotations are decided for us for every expansion, we're not privileged enough to come up with our own anymore.

You're right that there's a lot of improvement along with the streamlining. But it really just seems like an all or nothing with that behavior, everything has to be streamlined apparently. Nothing given up to choice.

Edit: I will admit that RDM feels amazing now. So they're moving in the right direction with some things. (Just wish I had even more utility, and even less rez power tbh)

Atelier? I have a feeling he wants to ask for 1.0 servers. Blizzard did that for Classic..and now they are ghost towns. Nostalgia is a great place to visit, but no one with half a brain wants to LIVE there.

In some ways I do miss 1.0, but I miss ARR-HW more. It really comes down to how we've lost a lot of our individuality and the 'MMO' part of the MMORPG.

I won't even entertain your trolling, just silly at this point.

[Atelier-Bagur]

At the time it was a thing, I was a little frustrated with things like Cleric Stance as an example - But now I miss it. I miss being able to mess up, get too greedy, and I miss the damage boost. What's funny is Y'shtola still has it in Brave Exvius.

I don't like that they continue to make the choice for me. Just like how my AST Sect was changed to give SGE more reason to exist, and I won't even go over how they butchered my cards. Rotations are decided for us for every expansion, we're not privileged enough to come up with our own anymore.

You're right that there's a lot of improvement along with the streamlining. But it really just seems like an all or nothing with that behavior, everything has to be streamlined apparently. Nothing given up to choice.



In some ways I do miss 1.0, but I miss ARR-HW more. It really comes down to how we've lost a lot of our individuality and the 'MMO' part of the MMORPG.

I won't even entertain your trolling, just silly at this point.

Now this is a more honest answer that I like hearing from people. Not saying that current combat is amazing. I still enjoy the current game and I find a lot of aspects of its streamlining very comfortable for an MMO but as an old-school jrpg player, I do wish we had more freedom and customization. Things like what I mentioned before like elemental weaknesses and variety of debuffs (imagine Sleep actually being useful for mob pulls) and allocating stat points. I wish I could've experienced 2.0 for what it was in the beginning but I know as somebody who likes this game, I would easily get tired of all the work around you need to do for combat, especially for an MMO, and I think the team and playerbase also foresaw this when it came to the streamlining we have now.

I would like some manner of variety in my classes, for one I would like more buffs and debuffs for healers.

[VelKallor]

I won't even entertain your trolling, just silly at this point.

Ill be blunt.

Disagreeing with you or having an opposing viewpoint is not trolling. I will disagree when and if and how I choose, if you cant handle someone not thinking the way you do, not my problem.

First Im a "new player" and now "Im a troll". You really have an issue here.

but I miss ARR-HW more

I dont.

I dont miss the 100 quest slog ARR to HW AT ALL, I did it pre and post changes. TWICE. I still remember the absolute nightmare of the "Whiskaet feast" questline that had me tearing my hair out.

You were running from pillar to post all the time , a lot of it was pointless fetch quests. Bluefog / Cereleum Refinery / wherever, those stupid bomb quests?? You spent that entire time going around and around in circles searching for them, it got real old, real fast.

Couldnt fly back then, so you were literally climbing and running back and forth looking for them..that WAS NOT fun.

Lemme clue you in on something, I was on Crystal / Zalera back then in NN, when new players learned of that 100 quest requirement they absolutely BALKED, a lot of them DID NOT like it, we lost more than a few who found it a horrendous slog..which it WAS.

I am sure there is much you may miss, but I am fairly certain that if you were to ask others, their responses would surprise you , and not in a good way. I dont miss a lot of issues with HW, specifically having to level one class to get another, the cross class stuff that didnt work, the specialist 'whistle whilst you work" setup that was just plain CLUMSY..you seem to miss all the useless makework that very few others miss..if at all.

Scattered Scions quest? I did that. It wasnt fun, it was infuriating and pointless.

The selective pruning that made that set of quests bearable was welcomed by EVERYONE..I dont know a single person who misses that godawful mess. TBH, that 100 quest slog put a LOT of people off , and it was NOT popular AT ALL.

You might miss it....but I doubt anyone else does.

Save the nostalgia for WOW Classic..if you can still find anyone who actually plays it.

[R041]

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I've never liked MSQ, and I didn't even mention MSQ - But if you really wanna bring that up, the ARR-HW slog was way easier than the ARR-EW slog.







You really just refuse to see what's actually being discussed. I don't miss any particular state of XIV 100%, I just wish we continued to develop and gave more variety to the player. I'm not literally asking for 1.0 or ARR, so I'm not quite sure why you keep saying that when there's a more broad discussion being had about the state of the play and not any specific expansion as a whole.