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    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Grinning Serpent
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    Maduin
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    If you're unhappy with the state of PvP, why are you complaining about it in the Housing subforum?

    You still haven't said anything that supports your claim that SE doesn't maintain and update content. All you've done is pointed out that you're unhappy with their choices and that certain other players have expressed similar opinions.
    I mean, we could look at the gold saucer in general and see evidence of it there. The problem is that you're taking an *extremely* reductive definition of "supports" here, such that no one can ever truly declare something to be unsupported even when it functionally is. It's typical webforums/reddit nonsense.

    On topic, when is the last time there was a *substantial* change to gardening? Okay, they added Allagan Melons in Shadowbringers - a seed that's purchased from a vendor for gil and does not involve crossbreeding or anything else in gardening, and can indeed be grown in flowerpots just fine. That's something added to gardening by a *very* generous definition of the term, but since it doesn't interact with gardening systems *at all*, I'd argue it's not supporting the system.
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    Zalde Tym
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    Balmung
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    I mean, we could look at the gold saucer in general and see evidence of it there. The problem is that you're taking an *extremely* reductive definition of "supports" here, such that no one can ever truly declare something to be unsupported even when it functionally is. It's typical webforums/reddit nonsense.

    On topic, when is the last time there was a *substantial* change to gardening? Okay, they added Allagan Melons in Shadowbringers - a seed that's purchased from a vendor for gil and does not involve crossbreeding or anything else in gardening, and can indeed be grown in flowerpots just fine. That's something added to gardening by a *very* generous definition of the term, but since it doesn't interact with gardening systems *at all*, I'd argue it's not supporting the system.
    Do people really use gardening as much as you seem to think they do? I mean it's a horribly clunky system that's really only good for one or two things, all i ever grew in mine was jute, i couldn't be bothered with anything else.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Marilith
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    I mean, we could look at the gold saucer in general and see evidence of it there. The problem is that you're taking an *extremely* reductive definition of "supports" here, such that no one can ever truly declare something to be unsupported even when it functionally is. It's typical webforums/reddit nonsense.

    On topic, when is the last time there was a *substantial* change to gardening? Okay, they added Allagan Melons in Shadowbringers - a seed that's purchased from a vendor for gil and does not involve crossbreeding or anything else in gardening, and can indeed be grown in flowerpots just fine. That's something added to gardening by a *very* generous definition of the term, but since it doesn't interact with gardening systems *at all*, I'd argue it's not supporting the system.
    Try reading back through the thread where we already discussed gardening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyama View Post
    Do people really use gardening as much as you seem to think they do? I mean it's a horribly clunky system that's really only good for one or two things, all i ever grew in mine was jute, i couldn't be bothered with anything else.
    Gardening is one of those love it or hate it activities. Those who like it will be doing it on a regular basis. Those who don't ignore it. At a rough guess. I'd say about 10% of house owners continue to garden after trying it out.

    It is useful for more than just one or two things. The fuss over Thavnairian Onions prices makes me want to sit back with a bowl of popcorn to read and giggle because while the price per onion is high, there is more profit to be made off other items that grow faster and have no RNG in their production. Some of them can be harvested daily so there's no risk of losing anything you were growing. Miss a day of tending your onion? Wave goodbye to your time and profit.

    Am I growing Thavnairian Onions? Of course not.
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