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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Remember 2.0 and 3.0 relic Fate train? I don't think I've ran into anyone who liked them. The whole reason we got Eureka in 4.0 because the outcry we want relic to be original contents, stop forcing us to do old content crap for it. Also when they tried to force people to run the old Alliance Raid to unlock the 5.0 relics, it wasn't very well received. The choice poison was between old Fate and old Dungeon, I pick the former because, again ... **** Ivalice.

    So it's a balancing act, just simply attach a "reward" behind a content people hate to do ain't gonna guarantee a positive outcome.
    So basically what this all amounts to is a good ol' fashion of "you think you do, but you dont". From my experience when I did the ShB relics and Bozja when they were still current content, me and a number group of people kinda grew sick of the content design and wished for something more simpler. While Shb relic grinds werent that bad, I can remember saying that I wished for the next expansion relic chain to be a bit more like the HW chain and lo and behold looks like I wasnt the only one the devs listened when they announced EW relic chain being more quest relative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    So basically what this all amounts to is a good ol' fashion of "you think you do, but you dont". From my experience when I did the ShB relics and Bozja when they were still current content, me and a number group of people kinda grew sick of the content design and wished for something more simpler. While Shb relic grinds werent that bad, I can remember saying that I wished for the next expansion relic chain to be a bit more like the HW chain and lo and behold looks like I wasnt the only one the devs listened when they announced EW relic chain being more quest relative.
    You're damn if you do, damn if you don't. In a weekend only class, students wish it's more paced out so they don't have to sit through a 6 hours class. When the same class is spread out 3 days a week, students antagonize the fact they have to come to class for 3 days a week, and would prefer it can be done in just one.

    You make it entirely about old content, people hate it.
    You make it original unique content, you face the risk of it becomes obsolete in the future.

    That's why some are speculating that EW's relic will be chain into the criterion dungeon.

    - Original content: check.
    - Challenge in group (if you want): check.
    - Solo-able for future obsoleted proof: check.

    The jury gonna still be out there depend on how it pan out. But this is also why I feel the people -especially new players- who just coming to the game and throwing accusations such as "they don't listen, this game never change its formula", severely lack context. There isn't many other MMO (or is there even one) that willing to listen, adjust, and experiment like FF14 does. I won't say they always hit the mark, but at least they try.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 12-11-2022 at 01:14 PM.