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  1. #41
    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Grinning Serpent
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    Maduin
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    Culinarian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GordonGeeko View Post
    Honestly, I think it's a culture thing. Like the game doesn't teach you how to do anything except an optional Hall of the Novice before your first dungeon. They sort of just expect people to be able to play decently enough to respect other people's time. Which I guess is pretty true in JP datacenters but couldn't be further from the truth elsewhere.

    But people assume that if SE doesn't tell you anything, it's an endorsement that it's okay to be utterly useless. The only interaction you will ever have with someone involved with the game is if you end up in jail or something. Even reports that you submit will not warrant a non-automated response. So, if someone doesn't say anything, you can just interpret that they want whatever you want.

    But they do seem to want people to improve at the game. They implemented de-ranking on the 1st patch after the PVP revamp and the wording in that was something like: "To make sure players always try their best". They want people to play better, they just never will tell you: You suck, git gud scrubs. I highly doubt they release difficult content or a ranked mode without hoping people improve their skills and attempt it.
    Yeah. The problem is that, especially for a competitive PvP mode like CC (5v5 is a lot more "competitive" than a 72 player FFA), you really can't afford to just let the players work things out. You need a meaningful ladder if you want the mode to be meaningful as a competitive experience.

    And if they didn't care about it being a competitive experience, why did we get ranked queue instead of "casual with your friends" queue?
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  2. #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edelgarde View Post
    GMs will however, instant ban anyone who has criticised a little snowflake for the way you play as long as they got chatlog proof. They love protecting self entitled players who don't want to get better and expect others to carry them through content. Yoshi P has an undying love for you guys for some reason. And that is the reason why we cannot talk crap in-game towards you guys directly. I am not getting my account marked for that. You're not worth my ban time.
    Source? Link? Proof?

    You have the ability to say whatever you want to me here, yet I have not goaded you into getting banned. What's the difference here and ingame? If I had the ability to make you say slurs, wouldn't I be able to do it here? Why wouldn't I be able to make you say slurs in pvp?

    So why can't we actually type in pvp?
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  3. #43
    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    I don't see how letting people type would be much different than what we have now. People would just use macros for things, just like they do in RW and FL... which is basically what quickchat is.

    I also have yet to see any actual proof of GMs banning or otherwise taking action against people who spam quickchat. Hell, I've seen "serial harassers" in FL continue to do their thing day after day, so I'm not sure even being a jackass in alliance chat qualifies.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    There's no rewards involved with winning in casual. Also you being on a shit DC is no one's fault but your own.
    Hold up Hold up.
    Your not gonna come at aether like your some PVP god
    I let you talk your talk for a while now but i got receipts
    don't act like your weren't crying about MCH RNG or SAM LB being overpowered not to long ago
    If your gonna act good better back it up and not crying about players cheating to get to rank all the time
    Otherwise Keep my Data center out your mouth.
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    Free the Glam!, Duel Pistols (Gunner)?

  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gserpent View Post
    I don't see how letting people type would be much different than what we have now.
    So you have no qualms with the system being changed and actual chat being allowed. Neat. You're not opposed to what I propose.
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  6. #46
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    Niko'to Seleuca
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    Omega
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatom View Post
    Hold up Hold up.
    Your not gonna come at aether like your some PVP god
    I let you talk your talk for a while now but i got receipts
    don't act like your weren't crying about MCH RNG or SAM LB being overpowered not to long ago
    If your gonna act good better back it up and not crying about players cheating to get to rank all the time
    Otherwise Keep my Data center out your mouth.
    Obsessed?

    People change their opinions on things, stuff like the MCH RNG and SAM LB don't annoy me like they did a few months ago lol
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  7. #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Obsessed?

    People change their opinions on things, stuff like the MCH RNG and SAM LB don't annoy me like they did a few months ago lol
    Oh we found RNG jesus and now born again
    Like I said don't talk about my Data center
    If you got a problem with aether by all means you can step
    Or I can come to you which makes you feel more comfortable I am more then happy to plz
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vatom View Post
    Oh we found RNG jesus and now born again
    Like I said don't talk about my Data center
    If you got a problem with aether by all means you can step
    Or I can come to you which makes you feel more comfortable I am more then happy to plz
    Imagine being upset over a datacenter.

    Wanna hear the funniest part? I don't even know what region Aether is lol. I also wanna specify, I've never been on it. The comment was towards its PvP queues being dead.
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    Last edited by Nikoto; 12-11-2022 at 06:00 AM.
    Give me more Keeper of the Moon rep!

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikoto View Post
    Imagine being upset over a datacenter.

    Wanna hear the funniest part? I don't even know what region Aether is lol. I also wanna specify, I've never been on it. The comment was towards its PvP queues being dead.
    Imagine not caring about your data center where you played with people for years even before people could visit other Data centers
    I know hard to since its before ShB
    But I think we came to a valuable lesson here "Context"
    Assuming makes and *** out of your and me
    Maybe instead of saying your DC is shit how about
    Your Queues are shit
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  10. #50
    Player Gserpent's Avatar
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    Maduin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claustrum View Post
    So you have no qualms with the system being changed and actual chat being allowed. Neat. You're not opposed to what I propose.
    I never claimed otherwise. But I also don't see any reason to change it. See, that's the way such a statement works - what you are suggesting isn't a meaningful change, in either direction, from what we have now. So why spend the work-hours on it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vatom View Post
    Hold up Hold up.
    Your not gonna come at aether like your some PVP god
    I let you talk your talk for a while now but i got receipts
    don't act like your weren't crying about MCH RNG or SAM LB being overpowered not to long ago
    If your gonna act good better back it up and not crying about players cheating to get to rank all the time
    Otherwise Keep my Data center out your mouth.
    Buddy, you need a hobby. Your choice of server farm in an online video game should not be defining this much of your personality.
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