Playing an expansion as current content has been a lacklustre MMO experience

[kaynide]

4 multi hour expensions when your main rival in the industry got 10 is not something to show proudly. That aside, FFXIV got lots of content, yes, but that content usually dry out fast. You do the MSQ once, then wait 3 months for the next patch that give like 1 dungeon that you will most likely run only once, unless it has good glamour behind it. You run Extreme Trials, until you drop mount then never go in there ever agains. There lots of yellow side quest, yet 99% of those give no real reward so there no good reasons to do them. We got tons of FATE, yet yoou only see people do the few one that give achievement.

If anything, the only repeatable content that take a bunch of time to complete is Beast tribe and current tier raids, but that mostly cause they time gate you so you can't farm them all in one go so...

I don’t see how whataboutism is relevant? Can you not just play both if you wanted to? It’s not like you have to pick sides or something.

..or were you one of those kids that had to pick sides from team PlayStation or team Nintendo?



Not every game, or every piece of content within any given game, needs to appeal to everyone.

[Magikazam]

I don’t see how whataboutism is relevant? Can you not just play both if you wanted to? It’s not like you have to pick sides or something.

..or were you one of those kids that had to pick sides from team PlayStation or team Nintendo?



Not every game, or every piece of content within any given game, needs to appeal to everyone.

We can't compare thing now cause that would just make your points less valids or something? Never said we had to pick a side, Like many people pointed out, other MMO got repeatable content and FFXIV just decide to not have those, and many regards that as a downside.

My point here is that if you limit your argument too ''There a whole 4 xpac ammount of content'' then it still not a lot compared to the industry standard.


Also ''Not every game, or every piece of content within any given game, needs to appeal to everyone.'' That must be a joke right? FXIV does the best it can to appeal to the casual masses, to the point there a tremendous gap between casual and hardcore content, with few content for the midcore player.


You also completly skipped my point where there a lack of repetable content and just jumped on the whataboutism strawman anyway.

[kaynide]

4 multi hour expensions when your main rival in the industry got 10 is not something to show proudly.

Smells like bait, but sure why not:
Both WoW and FFXIV have released an expansion every 2 years..ish. WoW has 9 expansion packs, btw. (I hesitate to call the "classic" versions expansions...) They really aren't that different on paper. The only difference there is age.

Expansion Release (WoW):

World of Warcraft (2004)
1st Burning Crusade (2007)
2nd Wrath of the Lich King (2008)
3rd Cataclysm (2010)
4th Mists of Pandaria (2012)
5th Warlords of Draenor (2014)
6th Legion (2016)
7th Battle for Azeroth (2018)
WoW Classic (2019)
8th Shadowlands (2020)
Burning Crusades Classic (2021)
9th Dragonflight (2022)

Expansion Release (FFXIV):

A Realm Reborn (2013)
1st Heavensward (2015)
2nd Stormblood (2017)
3rd Shadowbringers (2019)
4th Endwalker (2021)

I'm not sure why the FFXIV team shouldn't be proud of their release schedule. They've been extremely predictable and open with their development.

You also completly skipped my point where there a lack of repetable content and just jumped on the whataboutism strawman anyway.

I don't care about your complaint because I'm not sure why FFXIV really needs any more replayability than it has; you are free to do what you want, and then do something else. Why should there be a NEED to do something more than you'd naturally want to do it? And if Devs really want you to do certain content more, they offer rewards like Mog-Tomes or mounts.

I for one am glad I'm not required to grind 1,000 fates to get some required armor piece to do some other content. Grinding just isn't fun for me. If I wanted it, I'd play a game that has it.

We can't compare thing now cause that would just make your points less valids or something?
My point here is that if you limit your argument too ''There a whole 4 xpac ammount of content'' then it still not a lot compared to the industry standard.

Your point is weird is the thing. "MMORPG X is inferior to MMORPG Y because it has been around longer and has more expansion packs". Or "4 packs is not a lot of content compared to the industry standard." That's your argument?

You're comparing very different games like there actually is a set industry standard across MMORPGs, let alone MMOs at all.

They're apples and oranges:

WoW and FFXIV release an expansion once every 2 years(ish).
FFXIV has been extremely consistent, very predictable.
Guildwars kinda sucks on the expansions/story release schedule and is all over the place.

WoW and Guildwars don't offer Cross Platform play;
FFXIV is on several different platforms/launchers.

WoW doesn't offer a dye system;
GW's dye system is EPIC.
FFXIV...lackluster..but it's something

GW and WoW allow you to skip expansions (that can be a pro or con)
FFXIV requires going from start to finish (unless you pay)

..What is the "Industry Standard" then? Who knows, and honestly I don't really care. If I'm having fun/getting my value, I'll keep paying. If not, I got all these other games just waiting for me.