This new SYSTEM DOESN'T Work

[UkcsAlias]

Personaly i think the entire housing system should be server independant just like dungeon instances already are (yes, the DC limitation can stay here). Then it doesnt matter on which server a player is, preventing the need for people to move towards another (potentialy dead) server.

And it also means that housing on that can be scaled up independantly of the servers themselve. Sure, there can be 200 wards, and for most servers the ward number will change with it (unless the wards are still tied to a server for just naming purposes). And this can also make dynamic ward allocation a possible feature (when ward 200 is full, ward 201 becomes available in the next lottery cycle (the check can be a bit graceful on that, in which it just checks how many free plots are available and scale it up based on that). And yes, eventualy there will still be a hard limit. And by making it 1 ward per cycle, you do still limit the housing a bit so some dedication for the lotteries is required. This same system also gives them some time to prepare when they are nearing the limit.

As the housing servers need to be constantly running, there is no issue making them cross server.

In the end, this should not increase the load on housing servers, but will make the more empty servers not end up with lots of free wards while the busy servers are full all the time. And yes, while you might want to promote people to move to the new servers, the rewards for doing so are generaly not worth it, this includes housing. Most people that are interested in housing are already part of an FC, have a friend base on the server, and are part of some linkshells on that server.

If people want to benefit from the newer servers, they are more likely going to make a new character, rush through the msq (or pay), and tranfer some money over to them (which with good FC friends is easy as 5m gil for them is not worth the betrayal and complete loss of any reputation).

[Sasori86]

I feel like i have absolutely no chance at winning the lottery. There is'nt enough housing for everyone and it feels like the JUMBO CACTPOT i've been playing since 2012 and have never won that either, so i feel like the lottery system is the same, and makes me wanna quit this game sometimes.

I STILL don't understand why they don't have instanced housing options for those who don't care about showing off their houses in front of people...
There's alot of things that are housing based like changing the colors of your chocobo or personal things..

I understand they want us to join FC's but some like myself just want to have fun & rp with my kids. I want to rp as their butler and I have 0 chance of getting a House because there's very little I can do to save up 3 mill for a 1/1,000,000 chance of getting a house much less a small one. The only way to even make that much is by living my life around market board sharking from what I've been told.. I'm TERRIBLE at market boarding
No I don't want to rent an apartment cuz that's under the mercy of whomever's renting it out...

All this plot stuff does is generate animosity towards each other & then I see people on forums say "It's supposed to be hard just like the real housing market"
But Fantasy is in the name.. it's supposed to be an escape from the real world... not remind you of how soul crushing the real housing market is

In ESO you get instanced housing, there's a Christmas one where your house is inside of a snowglobe and you can teleport inside of it and if you go outside your house you can see the large surrounding shop area where you were

[Acesfool]

I'd like to see all plots of equal size cost exactly the same amount. 3 mil for a small, 20 mil for a medium, and so on. And when you bid on a plot you should have the option to apply your bid to any available plot (of the same size) on your server. Yes, I might have my eye on a specific plot, but I'd be happy with getting one anywhere. The bidding system is far fairer than the old system. But it's not without some major flaws.

[dspguy]

Just get a house, any house, the worst house out if you want to play it safe, on the outer rim of goblet surrounded by Paissas on one side and cliffs the other. You can upgrade later, and without any of the stress.

Bingo.

If housing is truly that important to a player, then the goal should be get any house - not a large in the best possible spot. If players are doing that, they don't have their priorities straight if housing ownership was their goal.

[Toutatis]

I want to rp as their butler and I have 0 chance of getting a House because there's very little I can do to save up 3 mill for a 1/1,000,000 chance of getting a house much less a small one. The only way to even make that much is by living my life around market board sharking from what I've been told.. I'm TERRIBLE at market boarding...

You don’t need to live around the MB to get 3 mils. Just naturally playing the story, doing some roulette (not all) is enough if you don’t spend needlessly. Retainers bring you back coins and other stuff. Doman Enclave is 20k/week. Doing levequests can get you more. With alchemy and the simple lvl 86 “Practical Command” 6 leves per day I make about 420k/week at about 10k per leve not counting the crystal sales because it gives me back more than what I use. If you haven’t done leves in a while and you have 100 available leves, that’s a million right there. You can pick other leves if you prefer, I like that one because it’s simple, I can craft while waiting for roulette and potions stack in my inventory. The higher the level, the better they pay. If you want even more gils, turn in dungeon gear (don’t ignore chests) to your GC and buy mats with them. You can sell them on the mb in bulk once or twice a week without spending your life there. You can do the same with poetics and converting them into topsoil.

You can also pool gils with your kids to place a bid.

And 1 chance out of a million? Lol I’ve seen some houses get several hundred bids but the ones I did bid on had less than 10 bids. I managed to get a personal and a small fc house for me and a few friends. You don’t bid on the prime beach spot if it’s your first house.

That being said, instanced housing would nevertheless be good. The current system is flawed and finite. The new wards will fill pretty fast in my server. Priority should be given to making housing available to all without having to change servers.

[Jojoya]

I understand they want us to join FC's but some like myself just want to have fun & rp with my kids. I want to rp as their butler and I have 0 chance of getting a House because there's very little I can do to save up 3 mill for a 1/1,000,000 chance of getting a house much less a small one. The only way to even make that much is by living my life around market board sharking from what I've been told.. I'm TERRIBLE at market boarding
No I don't want to rent an apartment cuz that's under the mercy of whomever's renting it out...

Apartments aren't "rented" in FFXIV. They're purchased from the game (you might think of them as a condominium depending on where you live) and there is no demolition if you take a long break from playing the game. Once you purchase, it's yours until you decide to give it up.

The downside is you wouldn't be able to add your children as tenants. They would be able to enter but not interact with the interactive objects other than sitting on chairs/sofas and dozing on beds.

As for getting 3 million gil, it's not that bad though it's not going to be as easy for you as it would be for a max level character. Selling on the marketboard is involved but that only needs a few minutes of your time when you're in game to collect gil from what already sold and then list more items for sale. Obsessively watching your listings like some do is usually unnecessary and really just stressful.

Grand Company seals can be used to purchase crafting materials to sell or ventures for your retainers so they can collect other items for you to sell. If you're a level 35+ gatherer, you can get a treasure map once every 18 hours to sell for gil or use yourself (some of the lower level maps will sell for more than some of the high level maps) not to mention doing some gathering to sell more crafting materials.

The important thing is to not spend what you've earned unless absolutely necessary. As an example, doing a weekly ARR hunt bill will give you hunt currency that can be used to buy 20 Aetheryte tickets so you don't have to pay expensive teleport fees. If you're averaging 400 gil per teleport, that's 8,000 gil saved not to mention an additional 5,000 gil just for completing the hunt bill. Doesn't sound like a lot at first but it adds up over time along with all the other little gil amounts you can earn.

You can do it if you really want that house. You just need to put in that little bit of extra effort.

[Avoidy]

Would you be so kind as to provide a link to the Japanese text (or translated text) with that promise?

Late as hell but it was mentioned in the Live Letter where they talked in depth about how the new housing system would work just before it was released. I actually don't know how to begin finding those (maybe on their youtube? idk), so I tried to be as specific as possible in case you're curious enough to go searching, but they straight up said that they'd monitor the ward situations as they played out to deal with the issue of some worlds filling faster than others, and of fc/individual wards filling at separate rates. Full disclaimer though, my translation was a reddit guy doing it live for free because square's too cheap to pay an official in house translator, so here we are once again dealing with that issue when we have to go back and check square's promises after the fact. If there's a place on SE's youtube where live letters are kept, it'd probably be uploaded a couple of weeks before the new lotto system was implemented.

Heck, if you were here for the launch of it then you'll remember a lot of people who wouldn't make solo FCs because they trusted Square to do the thing they said they'd do and monitor the ward situations in real time.

[UkcsAlias]

Obsessively watching your listings like some do is usually unnecessary and really just stressful.

It can also cause you to lose profits. Plenty of times items are bought in bulk. So even though there are 20 listings of stacks of like 10, these can be bought in 1 sweep. Especialy when items are generaly better to be sold on other worlds, players will sometimes buy out a big portion. A material normaly being worth 200 gil can suddenly spike to 1000, so if you were selling at 500, you already made 2.5x the gil.

Excessive lowering is often only done when people have too much items and just want to get rid of them and dont care about the gil as much (3x selling a stack of 99 at 200 can be better for a player than just selling it once at 300, especialy when they were gathering more than that anyway and dont have to fear running out. gathering is for plenty of people a good thing to do while waiting for the queue).

[Gserpent]

I STILL don't understand why they don't have instanced housing options for those who don't care about showing off their houses in front of people...
There's alot of things that are housing based like changing the colors of your chocobo or personal things..

I understand they want us to join FC's but some like myself just want to have fun & rp with my kids. I want to rp as their butler and I have 0 chance of getting a House because there's very little I can do to save up 3 mill for a 1/1,000,000 chance of getting a house much less a small one. The only way to even make that much is by living my life around market board sharking from what I've been told.. I'm TERRIBLE at market boarding
No I don't want to rent an apartment cuz that's under the mercy of whomever's renting it out...

All this plot stuff does is generate animosity towards each other & then I see people on forums say "It's supposed to be hard just like the real housing market"
But Fantasy is in the name.. it's supposed to be an escape from the real world... not remind you of how soul crushing the real housing market is

In ESO you get instanced housing, there's a Christmas one where your house is inside of a snowglobe and you can teleport inside of it and if you go outside your house you can see the large surrounding shop area where you were

There's a lot of ways of making easy money. Doing treasure maps is the most reliable method. Any "requires a full group" treasure map from level 60 or above will have a chance of popping a portal into a little mini-dungeon, and each chest you open in there gives you a large chunk of gil plus some items, some of which may be valuable on the market board. Some classes can solo the map dungeons, WAR and BLU being generally the best at it. Otherwise you can just create a group in PF and run maps with them. You typically do not need a full 8 players to clear the map dungeons... 3-4 is sufficient. Loot rules for map groups are typically either free-for-all (everyone rolls need on everything), or "your map, your loot" (the person whose map generated the dungeon/drops rolls need, everyone else passes.) It's usually expected that everyone brings 2-3 maps - you can have one map in your saddlebags, another unopened map in your inventory, and you can have a third, opened map in your key items inventory.

Maps are obtained through gathering. You'll want to hit lvl 60, lvl 70, lvl 80, or lvl 90 nodes respectively to find maps. You can find one map per day. Your timer isn't reset until you actually gather a map, so if it's not one of the "for a group of players" maps, I would recommend not gathering it and continuing to hit nodes until you see one.

Note that just selling the maps on the market board can also be lucrative. Prices fluctuate wildly because maps are one of the commodities most commonly manipulated by botters, but you can usually get 30-70k per map.

[Burmecia]

I STILL don't understand why they don't have instanced housing options for those who don't care about showing off their houses in front of people...
There's alot of things that are housing based like changing the colors of your chocobo or personal things..

we have instanced thing. theyre called apartments.
but SE should give us chance to splurge 100mil gil to buy XXXXXXXL apartment.
so people would begin to consider them as an option.

instead adopting ･:☆｡wonderful｡☆:･ﾟ player baked ideas like invisible timer, lottery and rent; i think is the newest brainfart