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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    A shame that the FFXIV community has become intertwined with generational angst. It's futile. They will replace us. At this point, if FFXIV can't welcome those who are under 20, then just take it down and replace it with something new. I'd rather that than to waste my money on a retirement home simulator, because I really don't want to feel any older than I already am.

    Once again: there is nothing you can do. They will replace us.
    No one's worried about that and it's a long way off.



    A genre isn't a person and doesn't have feelings. It's a video game. You play it to have fun. Genre isn't important, and being an MMO isn't special when everyone has internet and many games can be played with others.
    You should stop trying so hard with these posts.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    You don't have a choice.

    It is rare an active game will change its engine.

    Yes. FF14 did at one point, but that was an exceptional case that cost them a ton of cash.

    The only other game I can think of that did this is Rust, and it essentially received no updates for a ton of time during that process.

    Minecraft did too, but it now has two versions of the game so it doesn't really count. The Minecraft switch was for financial reasons.

    I think gamers don't realise that most engines we have now have been kicking around for decades (and they are just upgraded engines of what we had before). You can't just switch an engine. It takes a whopping amount of work.
    Blade and soul did it
    Black desert is planning to do one and eve online has done several graphical updates and is planning to change engine in 2023 iirc
    even an old ass game called martial heroes got a engine update, among others , remember these games have a very low budget compared to ffxiv

    i dont see any good reason why SE wouldn't
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    Quote Originally Posted by keichirou View Post
    Blade and soul did it
    Black desert is planning to do one and eve online has done several graphical updates and is planning to change engine in 2023 iirc
    even an old ass game called martial heroes got a engine update, among others , remember these games have a very low budget compared to ffxiv

    i dont see any good reason why SE wouldn't
    Those are engine updates. Not engine upgrades.

    You are also reading rumours not actual facts (in relation to BDO)

    An engine change is essentially making a fresh game. No company in their right mind is doing that, especially not square since ff14 doesn't need it. It would deliver no commercial benefit.

    Upgrading the current engine? Sure. Replacing it again? Absolutely no chance.
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    Last edited by PirateRyanG; 12-03-2022 at 03:58 PM.

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    Make a better engine port the game your self all assets are in the dat files.

    Document it in jp and give it to se for free if you can do better.

    There is so much that goes into a game.

    I've been developing a game across 3 engines over 10 years. Finally ported everything over to UR4 and now ur5 is out of beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PirateRyanG View Post
    Those are engine updates. Not engine upgrades.

    You are also reading rumours not actual facts (in relation to BDO)

    An engine change is essentially making a fresh game. No company in their right mind is doing that, especially not square since ff14 doesn't need it. It would deliver no commercial benefit.

    Upgrading the current engine? Sure. Replacing it again? Absolutely no chance.
    eve online got a whole upgrade in....2008? iirc ...and they constantly do graphics updates, the game is still popular to a certain point
    is possible.
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  6. #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by keichirou View Post
    eve online got a whole upgrade in....2008? iirc ...and they constantly do graphics updates, the game is still popular to a certain point
    is possible.
    They changed their graphics engine. Not the entire game engine.
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  7. #97
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    Oh my gosh its so funny how many people have no idea what it means to update a game anymore.
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    Like ffxi>ffxiv i would assume they'd use the current ff 16's engine with a whole new story, mechanics class system ect. if they were to continue ff's MMO brand. Or like they said they would do for Content upgrade for 7.0 and work on the graphics and backend filelogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aizuh View Post
    Like ffxi>ffxiv i would assume they'd use the current ff 16's engine with a whole new story, mechanics class system ect. if they were to continue ff's MMO brand. Or like they said they would do for Content upgrade for 7.0 and work on the graphics and backend filelogs.
    FF16's engine is the same as FF14's engine.
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    I kinda wonder if ff17 will be an mmo, or if square's just done making these things now.
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