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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadturk View Post
    Correction. It wasn't because he "didn't want to handle them." It was because the whole thing came with corruption due to the knowledge that Athena had planted. The tearing away of his emotions was a side effect, not the main idea.
    Wasn't it more like he also had those thoughts of doing unethical experiments but would never act on them but after getting to know her soul in that way he feared that the temptation would be too great so he cut that part out of him. Sounds like not handling your emotions to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreatonemal View Post
    Wasn't it more like he also had those thoughts of doing unethical experiments but would never act on them but after getting to know her soul in that way he feared that the temptation would be too great so he cut that part out of him. Sounds like not handling your emotions to me.
    It's almost definitely the temptation thing, yeah; whatever she was doing (which we don't entirely know yet) was too enticing for him to not pursue if he knew it--which we more or less know because Hephaistos couldn't resist it. Of course, difficult to say if it'd be that tempting to anyone, or just him. It's probably not some kind of malignant cognitohazard thought virus; I admit we don't have direct evidence that it isn't, but at the same time, we also don't have direct evidence that Nashu Mhakaracca isn't secretly an Ascian responsible for the Fourth Calamity. Stuff like that just isn't on the table as far as we know, so they can't just be brought up as 'fact' without some SERIOUS evidence.

    However, without knowing what it was, we're not sure exactly how irrational or what kind of irrational Lahabrea was being by doing that; for all we know that could've been the right call. We also don't really know how different Lahabrea actually was after doing that; we know Emet-Selch could literally see it, and we know Igeyorhm knew him well enough to suss out that something happened, but beyond that, no idea. Even his son didn't notice, but granted, his son mostly wasn't giving him the time of day afterward. I feel like we can assume that wasn't a normal thing to do, but beyond that, we just don't have enough info.

    Basically: jury's still out on if Lahabrea performing memory surgery on himself was an extremely stupid thing to do, a tragic necessity in the circumstances, specifically a 'him' problem, something that anyone would've struggled with, or anything in between any of those points. It's ABSOLUTELY fair to side-eye Lahabrea for doing that and not give him a pass yet, and he absolutely hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt at least for me, but we don't yet have any surefire evidence to either condemn or forgive him for it. (There's a laundry list of other items to condemn him for before then, anyway.)
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    Last edited by Cleretic; 12-01-2022 at 11:46 AM.