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  1. #181
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    Caelia Silverarch
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeronia View Post
    I just wanted to say I have just giving up at this point and stopped playing the after an interaction on an alt of someone asking me if my alt did ERP after I helped them in a FATE. The continued to pester me until a friend showed up to bail me out. All I wanted to do was play my alt on my not RP server but ever since that interaction I haven't bothered to log in. I do hope some people find a correlation between the rampant 18+ ads and general public acceptance of it and this kind of behavior. I just want this crap to go back to being private. Sure it is probably just one weirdo but I can't undo the connection in my head between the current state of shout chat/party finder and this horrible behavior. Apologies I know it is just personal and one rando but they proceeded to hit up the friend who came to bail me out as well and again I can't undo the connection between how open this has been as of late and well someone hitting up people out in the world about ERP.
    Give them a flat no, not interested, and if they continue to pester, report them under harassment. I've done this after giving my no a few times before finally saying "I've already said no, stop harassing me." Reported them for harassment, copy and pasted the chat, and sent it off. (And before any "but Balmung" comes in, this wasn't even on Balmung, it was Zalera where it happened as I ported in to help a friend out with something.)

    As it stands, I have "Erp = No" in all of my search comments, so if someone wants to RP with me, regardless of type, I'd expect them to be able to read and comprehend what "no" means - if they do and just want some gen rp, great, if not they're still going to be told no. If they get enough warnings, warnings turn into suspensions, and suspensions turn into bans. Most will stop at the warning because they don't want to lose access to their account. If they continue to be dumb, well... not my problem, and I hope a bit of time in Mordion Gaol or the waiting game on if they're about to lose their account makes them rethink their life choices.
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  2. #182
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    Give them a flat no, not interested, and if they continue to pester, report them under harassment. I've done this after giving my no a few times before finally saying "I've already said no, stop harassing me." Reported them for harassment, copy and pasted the chat, and sent it off. (And before any "but Balmung" comes in, this wasn't even on Balmung, it was Zalera where it happened as I ported in to help a friend out with something.)

    As it stands, I have "Erp = No" in all of my search comments, so if someone wants to RP with me, regardless of type, I'd expect them to be able to read and comprehend what "no" means - if they do and just want some gen rp, great, if not they're still going to be told no. If they get enough warnings, warnings turn into suspensions, and suspensions turn into bans. Most will stop at the warning because they don't want to lose access to their account. If they continue to be dumb, well... not my problem, and I hope a bit of time in Mordion Gaol or the waiting game on if they're about to lose their account makes them rethink their life choices.
    No means no.

    No exceptions. No buts. Just no.
    Learn it, love it, deal with it.

    If they can't, destroy them.
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  3. #183
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    No means no.

    No exceptions. No buts. Just no.
    Learn it, love it, deal with it.

    If they can't, destroy them.
    Exactly. If that boundary is being crossed, why the heck would I want to erp with someone who has no regard for boundaries? If I did erp and it went into territory I wasn't comfortable with, my saying "no" would mean absolutely nothing to them. I'd respect someone more if they asked and gracefully took the L when told no tbh and left me alone.
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  4. #184
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    Renalt El'doran
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    Quote Originally Posted by rainichan View Post
    If I did erp and it went into territory I wasn't comfortable with, my saying "no" would mean absolutely nothing to them.
    If you're not free to say "no" then your "yes" is meaningless.

    - some dude smarter than I am. Not much a benchmark...
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  5. #185
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renalt View Post
    If you're not free to say "no" then your "yes" is meaningless.
    thanks for quoting me.
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  6. #186
    Player Necrotica's Avatar
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    I only ERP with the PVP quickchats.

    Nice job. Nice job. Limit Break ready!
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  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    No means no.

    No exceptions. No buts. Just no.
    Learn it, love it, deal with it.

    If they can't, destroy them.
    Concerning ERP, there are too few people who understand this. And when you remind them of this simple rule, some go on long diatribes... accusing you of prudishness, of fragility because you feel "attacked" (and this, even if you never said that), etc. A nice reversal of blame, in short.

    And, above all, the same manipulation technique that is sometimes used by IRL aggressors.
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  8. #188
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    And when you remind them of this simple rule, some go on long diatribes... accusing you of prudishness, of fragility because you feel "attacked"
    I know this is easier said than done. I really do. It goes far beyond this, especially in real life where it can be dangerous. But this goes for anyone who does this to you, ERP or not.

    The moment anyone says that to you is the moment you see them for what they really are. A child, who crumbled to dust at the sight of two letters. At that moment, they should be nothing more to you, because they cannot be mature enough to hold onto their ego after being denied something trivial and pointless.

    Begone, thot. Begone, and know your shrivelled prune will never be enough to satisfy anyone worth their cents.

    "No" shouldn't be downplayed. Consent shouldn't be ignored for the sake of "fun". If they can't take "no" for an answer, they just suck.

    And thankfully we're speaking of ERP, where there's very minimal they could do to you. Meaning all they're worth after that point is ridicule. Not pity, not fear, just ridicule. No need to blame ERP for the sake of people whom you really don't need to spare any more of a braincell over. Because ERP is just like any other form of roleplaying, it just implies something people generally think of as taboo. And those who engage in it aren't necessarily bad people or perverts. And sure, it attracts perverts and bad people who want to indulge for some stupid reason, but those shouldn't be the main association to ERP.

    At that point I feel like the issue doesn't just lie in ERP. At that point, it's up to you to have discernment. And tell who's going to be a douche and who won't be, same as anything else.
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  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bukachu View Post
    thanks for quoting me.
    Let's be honest...I was quoting everyone that wasn't Firemage.
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    When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.

    Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.

  10. #190
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    Concerning ERP, there are too few people who understand this. And when you remind them of this simple rule, some go on long diatribes... accusing you of prudishness, of fragility because you feel "attacked" (and this, even if you never said that), etc. A nice reversal of blame, in short.

    And, above all, the same manipulation technique that is sometimes used by IRL aggressors.
    You'd be surprised by the amount of preds that send me tells using fake accounts to get some. It's disturbing.
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