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  1. #71
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    You just proved me right, thanks. It's sad seeing someone with skill be this dumb
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  2. #72
    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mithron View Post
    I don't care if it was a nightmare to BaLaNcE, it was fun. It had soul. Giving BLMs Enhanced Arrows and BRDs Extended Spears for more procs was so much fun. It wasn't all just AoE Balance. Throw a Ewer on your co-healer that just died and got res'd, laugh as you draw 6 Balances in a row and start dumping Enhanced Balances on your best DPS then extend it with your OGCD buff I forget the name of, Time Dialation?

    I miss it so much. SB AST was best AST.
    Agreed I said this about 100+ times already and glad someone out there saw use of the other cards and not just balance in SB. Only card that became bad when tp was removed was spire.
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  4. #73
    Player IceBlueNinja's Avatar
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    Blade Beoulve
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    Fun trumps balance any day and the old cards were more fun. Not only did you have to put a bit of thought into your cards, every card was useful and felt useful when done right which is something the game lacks- visible feedback that makes it feel like your buffs are doing something

    the people who whinged that they wanted balance only were the ones wanting big parses
    Thats exactly what I been saying. Like who gave those entitled ones the right to ruin others fun. Now look at the jokes we have as buff. Most dps jobs affords better buffs than ast cards atm.
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  5. #74
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    I saved Savage raid parties thanks to the aoe bole in pf because the other healer was not experienced that much.
    I eased the burdun of healing a not ont point tank in dps stance with enhanced bole.
    I helped my co-healer refresh mp after death.

    I properly buffed with arrow/spear/balance when needeed in optimized environment.

    Cards had several uses for several scenario : dungeon, 24-man raid, eureka, savage ....


    But anyway...
    Yeah I miss it.
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  6. #75
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    SGE and SCH are practically night and day, you should know this. Like holy hell, you should know better than this given your skill, sad. Also 20 post daily limit is cancer
    I wouldn't call them "night and day".
    SCH and SGE don't exactly spend their ressource the same way indeed (SCH prefer fey skills first because AF stacks "costs" is 100 potency" while SGE will prefer to spend their stack first to prevent overcapping and keep a good mana pool).
    Some skills are similar and different at the same time.

    Overall, this isn't a 100% copy playstyle and skillset, but the majority of SGE's design comes from SCH no matter what.

    On one hand, I disagree with people saying SGE and SCH are exactly the same, but the differences aren't SO significant to tell they are "night and day".
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  7. #76
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Gilgamesh
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    Overall, this isn't a 100% copy playstyle and skillset, but the majority of SGE's design comes from SCH no matter what.
    I'll take blatant falsehoods for 200
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  8. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by FireMage View Post
    I'll take blatant falsehoods for 200
    I don't see where are the falsehood here.
    You just have to pick each skills one by one to see it.

    I play both anyway. I'm mostly okay with what they did so...
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  9. #78
    Player FireMage's Avatar
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    Firemage Li
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    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    I don't see where are the falsehood here.
    You just have to pick each skills one by one to see it.
    And it's not there. Next
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  10. #79
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    I wouldn't call them "night and day".
    SCH and SGE don't exactly spend their ressource the same way indeed (SCH prefer fey skills first because AF stacks "costs" is 100 potency" while SGE will prefer to spend their stack first to prevent overcapping and keep a good mana pool).
    Some skills are similar and different at the same time.

    Overall, this isn't a 100% copy playstyle and skillset, but the majority of SGE's design comes from SCH no matter what.

    On one hand, I disagree with people saying SGE and SCH are exactly the same, but the differences aren't SO significant to tell they are "night and day".
    SGE doesn't have enough abilities to make it different from SCH for me to not call it a clone. It is a clone and even if it wasn't, not worth being advertised as a "new healer" because it barely does anything different from existing ones.
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    I'm tired of being told to wait for post-patches and expansions for fixes and increased healing requirements that are never coming. Healers are not fun in all forms of content like all jobs should be, they're replaced by tanks and dps due to low healing requirements and their dps kit is small for 0 reason, when in the past we had more options and handled things just fine. I refuse to play healer in roulette come DT. I refuse to heal EXs, I refuse to go into Savage, and I am boycotting Ultimate.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

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    Agnes Nimue
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KDSilver View Post
    I don't see where are the falsehood here.
    You just have to pick each skills one by one to see it.

    I play both anyway. I'm mostly okay with what they did so...
    The only time you should take that person's posts seriously is if at least 1 other person supports the claim with their own argument, which almost never happens.

    SGE technically doesn't do everything SCH does to a tee, but it doesn't exactly bring much new to the table. I'd say 80% of the kit is recycled from SCH with some tiny twist, so I understand when people call it a clone.
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