Fishing needs a total overhaul

[Fruity_Snacks]

The absolute worse offenders are the 24 legendary fish in the game - and of those some very select few that people truly dislike. Cinder Surprise, Ealad Skaan, and Ruby Dragon are typically the worse. Legendary fish are the last fish released in an expansion and typically the rule they follow is "there are no rules."

That's a new idea that folks haven't suggested before, and it would align a bit with how they're doing Spearfishing. It would need to be tested against latency and player accessibility though. Maybe they could test something like this in Island Sanct.

They could also just add Big Fish to spearfishing.

[rxantos]

The changes I want are.
1. Change all the bait to a bait box.
2. Allow all fish to be cooked by culinarian.

[Deveryn]

The changes I want are.
1. Change all the bait to a bait box.
2. Allow all fish to be cooked by culinarian.

1. See: versatile lure
2. While I agree that there should be some more use for fish, coming up with recipes for everything is quite daunting (as is the thought of checking those off on the craft log. )

[Calysto]

2. While I agree that there should be some more use for fish, coming up with recipes for everything is quite daunting (as is the thought of checking those off on the craft log. )

Made a suggestion a while ago about about fish desynth giving fish bone/meat/steak/slice (depending of Lv.) instead of sand ; with something like that you need fewer recipes than one for each fish and it make every fish useful.

[Tint]

Made a suggestion a while ago about about fish desynth giving fish bone/meat/steak/slice (depending of Lv.) instead of sand ; with something like that you need fewer recipes than one for each fish and it make every fish useful.

These items will oveflood the market board and will be just as worthelss as the sand.

By the way the fish are not useless. They prevent you from catching the fish you actually want and thus keeping the whole fishing minigame interesting.

[Calysto]

These items will oveflood the market board and will be just as worthelss as the sand.

By the way the fish are not useless. They prevent you from catching the fish you actually want and thus keeping the whole fishing minigame interesting.

I'm not saying that it's something that will make you rish, mostly than it's easier to implement than adding 1k+ recipes and more logical than having fishing supply mainly the construction industry.

As for the use of fishes : sure, but that was not the point.
Do most fishes have an use once they become an inventory item ?
If not you could as well have "conceptual fishes" that don't exists as actual items.

[Deveryn]

I'm not saying that it's something that will make you rish, mostly than it's easier to implement than adding 1k+ recipes and more logical than having fishing supply mainly the construction industry.

As for the use of fishes : sure, but that was not the point.
Do most fishes have an use once they become an inventory item ?
If not you could as well have "conceptual fishes" that don't exists as actual items.

A lot of them can be used for paintings or otherwise sold for gil if you're done leveling desynth. Sand just makes the most sense for desynth. The food idea would require varying levels of output because there are so many different sizes across all the levels. That just makes things complicated when they could just use different quantities of the whole fish in the recipes.

[player12304895]

If a fish bites and you press whatever hook button you press, you catch that fish (patience, precision and powerful being the only exception to this).

This would be a good start in solving the issues with big fishing. I'm about 7 fish away from the title and have not caught anything in over a month despite many hours spent prepping windows for fish just to have them bite and bail even with best equipment, food, etc. Part of it is RNG dependent, we know that going in, but the current RNG rates are too harsh. It's made me hate fishing honestly, if I wasn't so close to the titles I wouldn't even be doing it anymore.

[FireMage]

This would be a good start in solving the issues with big fishing. I'm about 7 fish away from the title and have not caught anything in over a month despite many hours spent prepping windows for fish just to have them bite and bail even with best equipment, food, etc. Part of it is RNG dependent, we know that going in, but the current RNG rates are too harsh. It's made me hate fishing honestly, if I wasn't so close to the titles I wouldn't even be doing it anymore.

Given that big fishing has no influence at all over the primary gameplay loop. No. It's fine as is. Buck up or quit

[Deveryn]

This would be a good start in solving the issues with big fishing. I'm about 7 fish away from the title and have not caught anything in over a month despite many hours spent prepping windows for fish just to have them bite and bail even with best equipment, food, etc. Part of it is RNG dependent, we know that going in, but the current RNG rates are too harsh. It's made me hate fishing honestly, if I wasn't so close to the titles I wouldn't even be doing it anymore.

It sounds like you just need a break. I've been on and off with this and recently getting back into it as I don't have a need for much else right now. RNG is harsh and that's to be expected, especially with this. If you could catch everything in the first window, it would be pointless.