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When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.
Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.
Why is it always the people who sit there giving advice to others in duties that often don't bother follow any of it?
Alzadaal's Legacy. Usual Tank package consisting of doesn't use dashes, doesn't use mitigations, cannot keep aggro. Sits there and tries to give advice to the rest of the party that no one asked for on bosses or in the rooms before the second boss(during those mobs they mention attacking the things in the middle that summon more adds, the whole time while being out of attacking range of them and single target comboing the pack of adds they currently have...).
Side note. As usual I didn't call them out or say anything, so if anyone has the fortune to run into them I hope you enjoy.




Between your forum name and Main Character name....Why is it always the people who sit there giving advice to others in duties that often don't bother follow any of it?
Alzadaal's Legacy. Usual Tank package consisting of doesn't use dashes, doesn't use mitigations, cannot keep aggro. Sits there and tries to give advice to the rest of the party that no one asked for on bosses or in the rooms before the second boss(during those mobs they mention attacking the things in the middle that summon more adds, the whole time while being out of attacking range of them and single target comboing the pack of adds they currently have...).
Side note. As usual I didn't call them out or say anything, so if anyone has the fortune to run into them I hope you enjoy.
Methinks you might be a cat. I dunno. Needs farther investigation.
When you deal with human beings, never count on logic or consistency.
Fluid like water. Smooth like silk. Pepperoni like pizza.
Confession: I've made several people get angry in Duty Finder before thanks to me being a noob tank. I keep forgetting to pop my defensive cooldowns, and it results in the healers having to work overtime to keep my sorry rear alive. It's not like I mean to make the dungeons harder; I really am just bad.
Thankfully, most people seem rather receptive to new tanks and are willing to give a hand. So as long as you admit you're new, you're fine. The real issue are people who refuse to listen and get snippy at people. So as long as you're willing to learn how to not give healers a heart attack, you're fine.Confession: I've made several people get angry in Duty Finder before thanks to me being a noob tank. I keep forgetting to pop my defensive cooldowns, and it results in the healers having to work overtime to keep my sorry rear alive. It's not like I mean to make the dungeons harder; I really am just bad.
Also, remember it goes the other way. You can't do their job for them, there's only so much you can do. Healers can also be new as much as they can also be jerks. (Unless you're WAR, in which case the healer is just there to help you when you run out of buttons)
Friends report seeing a strange rise in deeps getting upset when the tank big pulls.
My uncle pulled all of Wanderer's Palace to the first boss because that pull is kinda fun and new Living Dead is silly. There was a Black Mage in the party (friendly after the duty so will give them benefit of the doubt) that mentioned not having to pull the whole dungeon. There was a single wipe there due to a minor misplay on the healer and tank's part (mistimed invuln + missed aggro on two mobs). Perfectly acceptable for players fresh out of ARR. That is no reason to abandon all hope into single pulls. Naturally my uncle ignored the chat and did the big pull again after understanding where he messed up and it went perfectly. There were zero wipes for the remainder of the dungeon and the healer (who is his partner) had zero issues with big pulling.
Honestly baffling, big pulling puts pressure on healer or tank, all the dps must do is push the aoe buttons so I am most confused... Why would a dps be upset with a big pull? Even a single wipe saves time over single pulling, especially if the player who caused the wipe is willing to learn. Seriously, let the new players pull it all and learn because how else are they going to get better?



Been playing with a friend, me as a Tank most of the time. He's been trying to get me to stop being so over-anxious about Party chat to make me look at it more. Got to say, meeting wholesome people everywhere.
Mortal Fist


Its probably safe to stop doing this now. Last patch they changed regen to only add agro when the spell is first cast, so its actually much less of a hindrance when pulling then it used to be. Not that im telling you, or anyone, how to play. The english language lacks the proper vocabulary to describe how little i care about how you play.

I prefer to slag myself off than others. Big sorry to the group I repeatedly wiped in Zot today. I was probably one of the worst healers I've encountered.
Long story short, pet drama this week left me exhausted and I thought it was a good idea to run a dungeon after a week of hardly any sleep.
I was so bad that I didnt even realise the tank was dead until the group was dead more than once, pressing holy as if its a range skill (I thought it was glare), and couldnt avoid a single mechanic. It was an utter shitshow and I feel quite bad about it because we spent some time with the tank trying his best to help me. You were on a losing battle, I didnt even know what buttons I was pressing half of the time.
Last edited by Tiramu; 11-12-2022 at 05:53 AM.
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